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2724 messages, Last post on Nov 05, 2009 at 2:58 PM
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You know, that two tone affect with the lower cladding on my Sube does have a spat look to it. Steve, Host |
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LOL. Nice link, too. Actually, the mudflaps on the monotones kinda fit the bill too. Zman |
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Congrats Matt! Join the Subaru Crew threads under Owners Clubs, you'll love it. -juice |
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While I sit on the fence trying to decide between a Forester XT, 05 Legacy Gt or Outback XT, my local Subaru dealer comes up with a '04 Forester XT PP that they say was driven by the regional SoA rep. From the build date, it looks like it must have been one of the first FXT's to hit these shores and the guy put over 18,000 miles on it in 10 months! Except for some minor bug and gravel dings in the paint on the front, it appears to be in good shape......obviously, you need a lot of highway miles to add them up so quickly! Given that the new ones on the lot can be had for as much as $500 below invoice with 1.9% financing for 60 months from Subaru and this one has half of the factory BTB warranty gone already (in 10 months), Im thinking the dealer should be willing to let go of this car for under $18,750. If so, I would be able to use some of my savings for a factory extended warranty and still come out over $8K less than I would spend on an 05 Legacy GT LTD. Any thoughts on my pricing? Too high? Too low? Mark |
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I think that's about right. Let my apply my usual rule of thumb, you lose 10% driving off the lot, 10% more every year after that. So let's say factoring in the miles, we subtract 25% of the original value. The PPs sell for at least $25k now, so that puts the value at ... voila, $18,750. Plus options. Realistically I think the dealer might try to get $20k for it. -juice |
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Juice, You did the exact same math I did. The car doesn't have any options on it, not even the auto-dimming mirror/compass. The dealer was willing to let me take it for a few days to test drive it but drug their feet about pulling the service records up on the computer ...which made me a little leery if it was supposedly the regional SoA rep's car. Bottom line, I told them I did not want to waste their time or mine haggling, especially since it was a Silver XT PP , my second-to-last color preference, after black...I wouldnt go above $18,750 and he wouldnt come below $20,000. Back to The Fence, waiting on your report from Vegas! BTW, the dealer confirmed he would go $500 below invoice on any new FXT in stock, plus customer cash back or special financing . They also have some really good deals on 04 LL Beans, but once the wife drove the Forester XT, there's no going back....We wants da' turbo! Mark |
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I'd buy new...you could price a 5 speed at about $22.8k, that's too close. Then again the '04 PP has automatic and that moonroof. -juice |
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Well I did all my research, and after little bit of back and forth email haggling, I got the dealer to give me a price of $21045 on an XS,MT, with an MSRP of $23865 (with dest). Not too shabby, right? Ok, I show up at the dealer, and say, "Here's my trade, now give me a good price for that" Of course I am expecting the low ball worse price. No problem. Plenty of room to negotiate. Mind you, I'm not trading a run-of-the-mill Camry or Taurus. I'm trading something that is basically a desirable vehicle. My trade was a 2001 Toyota Tacoma Double Cab, immaculate, custom cap, full power, ac. New BFG's, etc. They said to me "We can't sell that truck. We'll have to wholesale it. I'm going to have to call around" They would NOT even give me a price??? What is up with that. I said "You are going to wholesale this vehicle???? Not even keep it on your lot???" They said "If you were looking to buy a truck like that, why would you come to a Subaru dealer??" This makes perfect sense, yet no sense. This is the busines they are in. I quickly spotted a 99-00 Chevy Blazer in puke gold, and asked what the deal was with that. "Well, blah, blah, blah." Now, NADA Trade-in is 15900 on my truck. Kelly is 13652 on my truck. I wasn't looking for a lot, maybe 14500. Which, when a truck like mine's dealer asking price is almost $19000 (same sources) leaves them room to make a lot of profit. I haven't heard back from them with a price yet....I'm not holding my breath.
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I've seen lots in my area that won't take anything more than 2-3 years old, so your truck would be borderline. Wholesale will be a low ball anyway. At least go to a CarMax and compare what they'll give you for it. New car sales aren't really profitable, even with a $400 or so holdback they have expenses, and prolly lose money. They can't also absord the cost of a truck they may not be able to sell. The gold truck is sitting there unsold, I don't think that changes anything. It may even be why they don't want a 2nd truck. Just playing devil's advocate. The Mazda dealer where we bought our 626 would not take our Mitsubishi Mirage, either. It was only 4-5 years old IIRC. Happy ending - we sold it privately for $2250. The dealer had hinted he'd give us $500 wholesale, so we got 450% of what they offered. -juice |
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| If they won't take the trade in at a reasonable price then I'd talk to another dealer. Lay out your deal and your expected trade in. Let them make the call. At least then you've looked at more than one source. I ended up selling my old car myself and it was a huge hassle. If there is more than one Subaru dealer in your area see if they'll take the deal on your terms. Don't expect top dollar, but selling a car yourself is a time consuming process. | |
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