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Subaru Forester Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: is this a good price, any pros/cons? [weverhat] by p0926
Sep 10, 2008 (9:17 am)
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Replying to: weverhat (Sep 09, 2008 10:16 pm)

I thought there would be less negotiating room on a factory order than a car in stock
 
No it costs the dealer the least amount to be able to sell a car before it even leaves the factory.
 
-Frank
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Re: is this a good price, any pros/cons? [weverhat] by ateixeira
Sep 10, 2008 (10:36 am)
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Replying to: weverhat (Sep 09, 2008 7:49 pm)

I'd have gone with #4 also. I bet #3 would have had some unpleasant surprises on settlement day.
 
Always go with the upfront/honest dealer.
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Re: is this a good price, any pros/cons? [weverhat] by gsid
Sep 11, 2008 (11:50 am)
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Replying to: weverhat (Sep 09, 2008 7:49 pm)

Hi Weverhat,
                           I am also interested in a limited, I am in Seattle area.
Will love to hear the exact configuration of your vehicle and where at u are. $800 below invoice sounds a very good deal, I read thru previous posts and on average folks were getting $300-400 below invoice. Pl post details when you have clinched the deal.
Good luck.
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Re: is this a good price, any pros/cons? [gsid] by weverhat
Sep 11, 2008 (5:36 pm)
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Replying to: gsid (Sep 11, 2008 11:50 am)

OK, here's another question, which I think I found the answer to by reading another thread, but I'll ask it anyways.
 
Is the sales tax based on the dealer's location, or where I live? I read that it is based on where you live. I knew that there were issues if you were buying out of state. But if you are buying in the same state, just in another county, why is the tax based on where you live? Anything else you buy at a store in another county, you pay the sales tax for that county.
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Re: is this a good price, any pros/cons? [weverhat] by weverhat
Sep 11, 2008 (7:03 pm)
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Replying to: weverhat (Sep 11, 2008 5:36 pm)

Last post for tonight probably. I have gotten some funny responses from dealers after I informed them of the lowest quote I had received and asked them if they could beat it. Here are some of them:
 
- "Did you want a turbo? I have a feeling the other dealer quoted you on a non-turbo" (don't tell me you're the internet manager and you don't even know that the "T" in "XT" stands for turbo...)
 
- "Don't accept that offer yet. I think I can do better, but I have to check the numbers after I am back in the office tomorrow" (I haven't heard back from this one yet...)
 
- "I can beat that. Let me know when you decide which dealership you want to work with"
 
- "They will hardly make anything at that price. I find it hard to believe they would do that, especially on a factory order"
 
Here is one of my favorites, the initial automated response I got from them said that they were a "no hassle dealership" and that they "cut right down to the bottom line price" and that there was "no back and forth from the manager". That sounded promising, I thought. After I emailed them with my lowest quote, I got this response:
 
- "That dealer is probably planning on marking up the interest rate to make more profit." (they didn't provide me a quote but promised to beat the low offer... so much for "cutting right down to the bottom line" and "no back and forth").
 
Oh, and of course there was the dealer who guaranteed they could beat any other dealer's quote, but when I told them the low quote I had, they said they wouldn't be able to trade for the vehicle. Funny, I told them exactly the vehicle I wanted when I first contacted them, it didn't seem to be a problem then that they didn't have the vehicle I wanted in stock when they guaranteed they could beat any other price.
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Re: is this a good price, any pros/cons? [weverhat] by sgloon
Sep 11, 2008 (10:59 pm)
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Replying to: weverhat (Sep 11, 2008 5:36 pm)

You must pay the sales tax for the city/county/state where you live....ie where you register the car.
 
If you haven't paid it when you pay for the car, they will tack it on to the total cost to register it.
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Re: is this a good price, any pros/cons? [weverhat] by ateixeira
Sep 12, 2008 (8:58 am)
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Replying to: weverhat (Sep 11, 2008 5:36 pm)

Where you live, I believe. Out of state dealers have to adjust for your tax rate.
 
X = Crossover
XS = Crossover Sport
XT = Crossover Turbo
 
That's how I think of the labels.
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Re: is this a good price, any pros/cons? [ateixeira] by weverhat
Sep 13, 2008 (2:36 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 12, 2008 8:58 am)

So I ended up going with dealer #1 (see original post) because he lowered his price by $200 and so was now the lowest by $400. Dealer #1 did not have the car in stock. I gave him a deposit and he obtained the car from another dealer (not from dealer #2, but from another dealer).
 
Dealer #1 checks my credit (he said they pulled 2 of my scores) and he said my highest score was 645. I was surprised because I had checked my scores from Myfico.com a few months ago, and my three scores were 709/689/670. I asked him if he was going to pull my third score to see what it was and he said no because the two they checked are usually the highest.
 
Is there any reason to believe that the dealer is not telling me the truth about my credit scores? I just find it hard to believe that they were that much different than Myfico.com.
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Re: is this a good price, any pros/cons? [weverhat] by weverhat
Sep 13, 2008 (2:55 pm)
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Replying to: weverhat (Sep 13, 2008 2:36 pm)

I went ahead and checked my scores from MYFICO.com again just now, just to make sure they didn't dive in the last two months for some reason. They are actually higher now - 716/689/680. So I don't get how dealer #1 could say my highest was 645?
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Re: is this a good price, any pros/cons? [weverhat] by weverhat
Sep 13, 2008 (3:03 pm)
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Replying to: weverhat (Sep 13, 2008 2:55 pm)

One more thing. When I asked dealer #1 why the scores were so different than MYFICO, he said something about the 'auto scores' being different. I wasn't even aware there were different credit scores just for auto loans which dealerships used.
 
So I did a quick search on Google, and I guess these really do exist, and some dealers use them instead. However it says these are based solely on your past auto loans. I have only had one car, which I have had for the past 15 years, and I never missed a payment on it, in fact I paid it off a couple years early.

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