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Subaru Forester Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: is this a good price, any pros/cons? [bears2] by weverhat
Sep 08, 2008 (8:57 pm)
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Replying to: bears2 (Sep 08, 2008 8:38 pm)

Yeah, it sounded like BS to me that dealers won't trade their cars. The same dealer who told me that also told me that they could guarantee that they could beat any other dealer's quote. When I got back to them with the lowest offer I had, they wouldn't provide me a quote.
 
Just to be clear, dealer #3, who proposed doing a factory order, said they could beat dealer #1's offer. How are they able to do that? I thought there was less negotiating room on factory orders than cars which are in stock.
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Re: is this a good price, any pros/cons? [weverhat] by sgloon
Sep 08, 2008 (9:15 pm)
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Replying to: weverhat (Sep 08, 2008 8:57 pm)

If dealer #3 says they will beat dealer #1, they need to tell you by exactly how much. Also, whoever heard of ordering a car, with you telling them exactly what you want, and the dealer not being able to give you a written quote for that exact car before they order it. Sounds a bit bogus.
 
Some dealers do not play well together, due in part I guess to their past history together. Many dealers however do play well together and often trade cars with one another. So, while it is possible that dealer #2 may not be able to get the car from dealer #1, don't believe it until dealer #2 tells you that they can't get the car. Having dealer #3 tell you that dealer #2 can't get a car from dealer #1 sounds very bogus to me... Besides, they may have other sources that you don't know about to get another of the exact car that you are looking for.
 
My one thought is to verify with them (in writing of course), if you haven't already, the exact options that are coming with the quoted price. Sounds like you probably do have that covered though...
 
Good luck!
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Re: is this a good price, any pros/cons? [sgloon] by weverhat
Sep 08, 2008 (10:32 pm)
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Replying to: sgloon (Sep 08, 2008 9:15 pm)

It wasn't dealer#3 who told me that dealers won't trade cars, it was another dealer other than the final three who told me that (I contacted about 14 dealers initially).
 
All the quotes I have received are for the exact same configuration (including options/accessories).
 
There are actually three cars in my area which match what I am looking for, so dealer #1 has a couple other dealers it could be obtaining the car from, other than dealer #2.
 
I replied to dealer #3 asking them when exactly they would provide me with a quote on the factory order. I'll see what they say. I guess one benefit of the factory order, other than getting a car straight from the factory, is that if better incentives are in place when it is finished (such as rebates or lower interest rates), I will get those. Any idea how likely it is that the incentives will get better in the next few months?
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Re: is this a good price, any pros/cons? [weverhat] by sgloon
Sep 09, 2008 (5:34 am)
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Replying to: weverhat (Sep 08, 2008 10:32 pm)

OH, sounds like you are in the drivers seat then, with regard to your deal! Yeah!
 
Re: change in incentives...it is really anyone's guess. Mortgage rates will go down some because of the Fanny May rescue. ...at least temporarily. Stock market jumped up yesterday with that news, which usually means interest rates go down some...but things are really shaky economically, and that won't get any better in the next few months. I only see, if anything, the economy getting worse in that time period...
 
Who knows how Subaru will react to the news/ecomony???
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Re: is this a good price, any pros/cons? [sgloon] by weverhat
Sep 09, 2008 (6:08 am)
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Replying to: sgloon (Sep 09, 2008 5:34 am)

I'm with you on your thoughts on the economy. That's why I kind of think incentives might get better despite the Forester's popularity. On the other hand, I wouldn't mind getting into my new Forester sooner rather than later.
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Re: is this a good price, any pros/cons? [weverhat] by bigfrank3
Sep 09, 2008 (7:16 am)
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Replying to: weverhat (Sep 08, 2008 7:28 pm)

One advantage dealer #2 has is that they have the vehicle. The dealer listed on the sticker is the one that gets the hold-back, so if it is "their" car they not only get the sale they also get the hold-back without waiting for someone else to sell the vehicle they otherwise would have had to trade another dealer for.
 
I would try to work with them to see if they can do a bit better for you, although $600 under invoice is a very good price, and there is always the bird in the hand thing.
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Re: is this a good price, any pros/cons? [weverhat] by ateixeira
Sep 09, 2008 (8:40 am)
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Replying to: weverhat (Sep 09, 2008 6:08 am)

Don't hold your breath for incentives, August Forester sales were up 73%. They cannot meet demand for certain popular models.
 
The only catch with the dealer trade is the vehicle might have a few miles on it when it is delivered, because most likely someone will just drive it over to the other dealer.
 
Is it worth $200 to have less than 10 miles on the odo vs. maybe 100 or so? Only you can make that call.
 
We did a factory order and got it in 5-6 weeks or so, but lately it's been taking longer. We did negotiate a price when we ordered it, and the dealer even told me we would get any new incentives that appeared (they didn't, of course).
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Re: is this a good price, any pros/cons? [ateixeira] by kyfdx HOST
Sep 09, 2008 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 09, 2008 8:40 am)

Assuming the location of any of these three dealers is acceptable, the only solid offer you have is dealer#2, because they have the car and are ready to make the deal...
 
If they have the car you want, and the dealership is acceptable to you, just go in and offer a couple hundred less and see if they go for it.
 
Dealership # 3? "Come on in, and we'll beat any deal".. Please... that isn't an offer..
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Re: is this a good price, any pros/cons? [weverhat] by sgloon
Sep 09, 2008 (3:25 pm)
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Replying to: weverhat (Sep 09, 2008 6:08 am)

Weverhat,
 
Ya know, if it was me, and I wanted the Forester sooner rather than later...I'd just go ahead and get it. There are no guarantees about the economy and you may wait for nothing. Or you might get a bit better deal.
 
Which would you rather, to be enjoying your new car now? Or wait for a bit better deal that may or may not come?
 
Food for thought. Either way, consider yourself to be one of the lucky ones who is able to purchase one now! See ya on the road.
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Re: is this a good price, any pros/cons? [sgloon] by weverhat
Sep 09, 2008 (5:38 pm)
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Replying to: sgloon (Sep 09, 2008 3:25 pm)

Well, I got an offer from another dealer. I'll call this dealer #4. They were able to give me an exact quote on a factory order. They quoted me about the same price as dealer #1 ($800 below invoice), but because the sales tax in dealer #4's county is 1% lower, dealer #4's out-the-door price ended up about $300 lower. This is looking pretty attractive to me. The only concern I have is what if the 4.9% financing currently available goes up by when I take delivery?
 
It will probably come down to either this latest offer (dealer #4) if I want to do a factory order, or the dealer who currently has the car (dealer #2) if I want the car right away.

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