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#2242 of 2740
Headrests by ateixeira
Sep 02, 2008 (9:49 am)
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Funny thing is I like the new ones.
 
I had a 1998 Forester and I actually swapped the front headrests with the rear ones, because they could be tilted forward, closer to my head for support and whiplash protection.
 
We're all shaped differently, but I actually like them this way.
 
Congrats to another week's worth of new owners, demand still seems to be very strong:
 
* victor_pv - group buy, neat idea
* cleocat
* pyewackett
* outpost05
* rich505
 
Amazing that even in late August these are still selling.
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Re: Inside lights [sgloon] by outpost05
Sep 02, 2008 (10:00 am)
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Replying to: sgloon (Sep 02, 2008 5:13 am)

The battery on my old Duster once died because the dome light was on for a week while I was on vacation.
 
  The small blinking security light on the Forester is a different situation. It is supposed to be blinking when the vehicle is not in use. It won't drain your battery.
 
I also was surprised to find that I couldn't manually turn off the front seat lights. After turning off the engine they come on then slowly dim and go off over several seconds , but there is no just plain on-off switch.
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Re: Inside lights [outpost05] by sgloon
Sep 03, 2008 (9:54 pm)
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Replying to: outpost05 (Sep 02, 2008 10:00 am)

I read further in the manual and found out that the dealer is able to change the settings for the front overhead lights. As I have an appointment on Friday, I will be asking them what are my choices for settings on the overhead light and probably change it, as I don't like that it is on all the time any time any of the doors or the hatch is open.
 
When packing/unpacking or camping in general, doors/hatch can be open for a long time....don't want to risk the chance of loosing the battery just because an unnecessary light is on... seems rather odd that the dealer has to set this rather than have a switch.
 
I wish Subaru would put out a list of items that are "dealer only adjustable" so that we could make just one appointment to get them all taken care of, rather than having to go in several times for these dealer only issues as they come up as we realize they are problems and that we can't change them ourselves...
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Re: Inside lights [sgloon] by p0926
Sep 03, 2008 (11:28 pm)
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Replying to: sgloon (Sep 03, 2008 9:54 pm)

I agree that it doesn't make any sense why they would eliminate the maunal off switch. Although... on several occasions, the overhead light switch has been inadvertently moved to the off position by my dog's head when she's riding in the back (yes she's a big dog)
 
When packing/unpacking or camping in general, doors/hatch can be open for a long time....don't want to risk the chance of loosing the battery just because an unnecessary light is on
 
Assuming your battery is properly charged, it should last for many hours so I don't see that as an issue.
 
There's been a time or two when I failed to completely close the back hatch (when it was daylight) and didn't notice that the cargo light was still on. The next morning it fired up no problem. Your's was a special situation where you left a light on for 4 days so of course the battery got drained. Also, I'm pretty sure you need to drive (not idle) for at least 20 minutes after jumping starting before your battery is close to being fully charged.
 
-Frank
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Re: Inside lights [p0926] by sgloon
Sep 04, 2008 (6:57 am)
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Replying to: p0926 (Sep 03, 2008 11:28 pm)

Frank,
 
I love those big dogs! Gotta have 'em.
 
The missing manual light switch I was talking about is for the lights in the front seat area. But the ones in the back used to be recessed (at least in my old subaru), so your dogs wouldn't have been able to inadvertently hit them.
 
I sometimes don't drive my car for a few days when it is parked in the garage (I use the bicycle whenever I can for transport.) So, I may not notice the light on if it is inadvertently moved to the on position for a few days (sometimes more). So Unfortunatley, this could happen on a regular basis. I'm going to have to watch it carefully. Right now, I have all dome lights turned to the OFF position so hopefully it won't be an issue again.
 
Unfortunately, I had to drive only about a mile or so from where the car was parked to where the camp was before I had to pack, so I wasn't going to be driving for 20 minutes before having the door light issue affect the low charge on the battery. If the light switch in the hatch area had been recessed, it would not have been an issue to start with. I don't know why they aren't recessed. And they are very easy to move, no real click to know it is moving, feels more like a slider type switch.
 
At this point, just something to be aware of so it won't happen to someone else.
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is this a good price, any pros/cons? by weverhat
Sep 08, 2008 (7:28 pm)
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I am in the market for an '09 XT Limited, no nav. I started the process of getting quotes over the weekend. I've narrowed it down to three dealers. Dealer #1 is the lowest price, at $800 under invoice, but does not have the vehicle on their lot, they said they would obtain it from another dealer. Dealer #2 is at $600 under invoice and has the vehicle on their lot. Dealer #3 does not have the vehicle on their lot, but said they could definitely beat the low price of Dealer #1 on a factory order, if I am willing to wait the 60 days that would take. However they said they could not give me an exact quote until the vehicle is built.
 
Are there any advantages to one or the other? I am willing to wait 60 days on a factory order. But since they said they cannot give me an exact quote until the vehicle is built, what assurance do I have (other than their word) that the final price will beat the low offer I already have? Is there any advantage to buying from the dealer who actually has the car on their lot? One of the dealers I contacted (it wasn't any of the three) said that the dealers who have the model on their lot aren't going to trade with other dealers because they want the deal with me. Does that mean that Dealer #1 might not be able to obtain the vehicle or was this other dealer not telling me the truth? All three of the dealers I have narrowed my choices down to have been straightforward and easy to deal with.
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Re: is this a good price, any pros/cons? [weverhat] by bears2
Sep 08, 2008 (8:38 pm)
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Replying to: weverhat (Sep 08, 2008 7:28 pm)

Dealers get cars from other dealers all the time. It's a reciprocal arrangement that dealers have, So I would definitely have dealer 1 get the car from the other dealer. I did the same thing...the dealership near me wouldn't sell me the car but another dealer 70 miles away went and got the car from the same dealer and sold it to me for less. Why wait 8-9 weeks for a car you can get for less today!?
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Re: is this a good price, any pros/cons? [bears2] by weverhat
Sep 08, 2008 (8:57 pm)
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Replying to: bears2 (Sep 08, 2008 8:38 pm)

Yeah, it sounded like BS to me that dealers won't trade their cars. The same dealer who told me that also told me that they could guarantee that they could beat any other dealer's quote. When I got back to them with the lowest offer I had, they wouldn't provide me a quote.
 
Just to be clear, dealer #3, who proposed doing a factory order, said they could beat dealer #1's offer. How are they able to do that? I thought there was less negotiating room on factory orders than cars which are in stock.
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Re: is this a good price, any pros/cons? [weverhat] by sgloon
Sep 08, 2008 (9:15 pm)
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Replying to: weverhat (Sep 08, 2008 8:57 pm)

If dealer #3 says they will beat dealer #1, they need to tell you by exactly how much. Also, whoever heard of ordering a car, with you telling them exactly what you want, and the dealer not being able to give you a written quote for that exact car before they order it. Sounds a bit bogus.
 
Some dealers do not play well together, due in part I guess to their past history together. Many dealers however do play well together and often trade cars with one another. So, while it is possible that dealer #2 may not be able to get the car from dealer #1, don't believe it until dealer #2 tells you that they can't get the car. Having dealer #3 tell you that dealer #2 can't get a car from dealer #1 sounds very bogus to me... Besides, they may have other sources that you don't know about to get another of the exact car that you are looking for.
 
My one thought is to verify with them (in writing of course), if you haven't already, the exact options that are coming with the quoted price. Sounds like you probably do have that covered though...
 
Good luck!
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Re: is this a good price, any pros/cons? [sgloon] by weverhat
Sep 08, 2008 (10:32 pm)
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Replying to: sgloon (Sep 08, 2008 9:15 pm)

It wasn't dealer#3 who told me that dealers won't trade cars, it was another dealer other than the final three who told me that (I contacted about 14 dealers initially).
 
All the quotes I have received are for the exact same configuration (including options/accessories).
 
There are actually three cars in my area which match what I am looking for, so dealer #1 has a couple other dealers it could be obtaining the car from, other than dealer #2.
 
I replied to dealer #3 asking them when exactly they would provide me with a quote on the factory order. I'll see what they say. I guess one benefit of the factory order, other than getting a car straight from the factory, is that if better incentives are in place when it is finished (such as rebates or lower interest rates), I will get those. Any idea how likely it is that the incentives will get better in the next few months?

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