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Bouncing Baby Forester! by pyewackett
Aug 29, 2008 (7:52 pm)
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Yesterday my husband and I drove home our new '09 2.5x Limited - our first new car since 1994. We're very excited but a bit overwhelmed by all the new bells/whistles.
 
This has been a very hot car here in central N.J. We went to 4 lots (2 in N.J. and 2 in Pa.) and went online to another 5-6 before we could get what we wanted. Even with all our invoice research, I'm sure we left money on the table. But we actually walked out of 2 dealerships (and I'm on crutches w/broken ankle) who wouldn't work with our price info. So we feel that we did the best we could, considering the car's popularity.
 
The final dealer quoted $500 over invoice and didn't ask about trade-ins or how'd we pay. (One rejected dealer actually had said, "Of course whether or not you finance makes a difference in the vehicle's price!" Riiiiiight.)
 
So our final rundown was:
Camellia red pearl (hard to find around here, but my husband really wanted a red car)
Pzev
Utility package
Popular equipment group 3 (4 cargo nets, spotlight)
Trailer hitch, installed (for a bike carrier we'll get later)
Bumper corner moldings, installed
Ipod interface kit, installed
All-weather floor mats
Luggage compartment cover
Ipod tray
 
Pricing ended up:
$24,541 - invoice
500 - over invoice
665 - destination
485 - Utility pkg.
$928 - Pzev + all other options, installed where indicated
 
$27,119 before TTL and trade-in of very shaky '94 Taurus ($300)
 
And there were no weird miscellaneous dealer charges, like advertising or security etching. After seeing how far other dealers would/wouldn't negotiate, and how hard it was to find our desired color, we were content not to haggle for a piece of the holdback or other discounts.
 
Our dealer was straightforward and low pressure - only asked cursorily if we wanted an extended warranty (no, d'accordo) and didn't mind us putting all our invoice price info all over their desks. A very decent experience.
 
Now if only that red security light would stop flashing 24/7 . . .
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Re: Bouncing Baby Forester! [pyewackett] by victor_pv
Aug 30, 2008 (6:41 am)
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Replying to: pyewackett (Aug 29, 2008 7:52 pm)

Congratulations for your new car!!
 
I got curious... what red security light is flashing 24/7? I just picked up my car yesterday and didn't see any flashing light. I know though that the alarm light start flashing like 1 minutes after you close the car, but should stop flashing as soon as you open the doors with the remote (or when you turn on the key, I don't remember now) but definitely is not flashing while I drive.
Is yours something different?
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Re: Bouncing Baby Forester! [victor_pv] by pyewackett
Aug 30, 2008 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: victor_pv (Aug 30, 2008 6:41 am)

Thanks, victor, and congrats to you as well!
 
The security indicator light has been flashing constantly when the car is turned off. It doesn't flash when we drive, but the car is in the garage and this red light flashes once about every 3 seconds. It doesn't matter if we leave the car locked or unlocked or if we've used the remote or the doorlocks. It just keeps flashing.
 
It may have something to do with the valet mode. I may have tripped this when yesterday morning I sat in the car and turned it on to set the radio presets and work with the iPod interface. A couple of times I turned the car off and on. And the couple of times I got out of the car, I used either the doorlocks or the remote to lock/unlock.
 
I just can't figure out how to make the flashing light stop. I'm getting paranoid it will drain the battery.
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Re: Bouncing Baby Forester! [pyewackett] by red927
Aug 30, 2008 (1:12 pm)
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Replying to: pyewackett (Aug 29, 2008 7:52 pm)

Could you say the name of the dealer? It sounds very much like the dealer I have been using for the past 16 years. No hassles, no BS, just straightforward dealings.
 
I am located at exit 8!
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Re: Bouncing Baby Forester! [pyewackett] by victor_pv
Aug 31, 2008 (12:57 am)
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Replying to: pyewackett (Aug 30, 2008 8:03 am)

I think the light is running normally. It is suposed to indicate the alarm is engaged. If you disable the alarm, then the light will go off. The valet parking mode is the same as alarm disable mode. Maybe when you used the valet key you enabled the alarm for the first time. I actually didn't check if mine is turning on after I close the car, but I suposed the alarm came activated by default.
 
I just had a look to the manual (I got a pdf from my.subaru.com) and when it blinks every 3 seconds, is in valet mode (or disabled, is the same). If it blinks every 2, then it is activated. Have a look at the section 2-14 in the manual. What I didn't see if it is possible to disable the light at all... but I supose it is not possible, as in the section 2-4 says that in case it doesn'blink, the inmovilizer may be faulty...
But don't worry about draining the battery, would need probably months to do so, I know from my previous car that was stopped for months in a row several times, and only once drained the battery, and had one of those lights blinking 24/7.
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Re: Bouncing Baby Forester! [red927] by pyewackett
Aug 31, 2008 (10:29 am)
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Replying to: red927 (Aug 30, 2008 1:12 pm)

Hi, Red - sorry for the late reply.
 
Exit 8, eh? We're in Lawrenceville, so we swing by that way often.
 
We went to Nitti's Subaru on Route 33 in Hamilton. Is that your place? A very satisfactory buying experience. And even after they had our check, they wouldn't let us leave the lot until they showed us the car's critical bells and whistles - even got a service fellow to help us with the iPod interface. We look forward now to using their service department.
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Re: Bouncing Baby Forester! [victor_pv] by pyewackett
Aug 31, 2008 (10:40 am)
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Replying to: victor_pv (Aug 31, 2008 12:57 am)

Hi, victor, and thanks for your advice. It does indeed appear to be in valet mode. You could be on to something - your new car may have been activated at the dealer. If your car's light doesn't flash every 3 seconds when the car's not in use, then there's hope for us!
 
I read the manual; when it's in valet mode, the alarm system is deactivated. It took me a few reads to distinguish between deactivated and disarmed. After reading the manual, I doubt that I accidently changed the setting, 'cuz to do so seems to take a bit of effort (holding the unlock button down for 10 seconds, etc.).
 
This afternoon we'll try to go back to activation mode (pg. 2-14). I don't know if this also will cause the system to be armed (pg. 2-15). If that's the case, then the security indicator light will actually flash more! I would just like to be able to have it flash-free when it's in our own garage. We'll see what happens. I'll report back.
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Re: Bouncing Baby Forester! [pyewackett] by outpost05
Aug 31, 2008 (1:50 pm)
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Replying to: pyewackett (Aug 31, 2008 10:40 am)

I just got a Forester-Premium with All Weather Package. I also noticed the blinking security light. My manual says it will come on after the key is pulled out and will flash every 3 seconds, "The security indicator light deters potential thieves by indicating that the vehicle is equipped with an immobilizer system".
  It appears it will always be flashing. I know some alarm equipped cars also have this "feature". An LCD light will have negligible drain on a battery.
 
    Did anyone else find the forward slanting headrests hard to get used to?
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Re: Bouncing Baby Forester! [outpost05] by kkrtrek
Aug 31, 2008 (2:12 pm)
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Replying to: outpost05 (Aug 31, 2008 1:50 pm)

"Did anyone else find the forward slanting headrests hard to get used to?
 
You bet! I sold my last new car after a year because I could not adjust to the headrest. It seems headrests these days are much more "aggressive" (forward slanting). I suppose it is a safety feature, but it is very uncomfortable for me. I think it is worse if you are tall, and I know it is worse if you sit fairly upright. I have not bought a new Forester yet, but this is my primary issue to resolve.
 
Can you take out the headrest and reverse the direction? I know you lose much of the benefit of having the headrest, but........Anyone else have any solutions for this vexing problem?
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Re: Bouncing Baby Forester! [kkrtrek] by outpost05
Aug 31, 2008 (4:02 pm)
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Replying to: kkrtrek (Aug 31, 2008 2:12 pm)

Yes, you can take out the headrest and turn it around although it will not 'lock' in place. It just slides in all the way down. Of course then it is slanted away from your head and offers no support.
   I have to admit that driving around town it doesn't matter so much since you are sitting up and and leaning forward a lot watching all the traffic, but I wonder on long trips just how uncomfortable it will be pushing your head forward as you recline the seats somewhat.
    To get back on topic I got my Forester for invoice + $300. (the cheapest quote I got from 3 Utah dealerships). I don't think we have the volume of sales out here to get some of those deep discounts I've read about in past posts.

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