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#2192 of 2724 Re: Regarding the purchase from Heuberger Motors [bpraxis] by p0926 Aug 24, 2008 (8:01 pm)
Replying to: bpraxis (Aug 24, 2008 12:16 pm) Are these doc fees legitimate?   Well there are certainly some costs involved for the dealer in completing the sales paperwork and $299 isn't abnormally high. However, contrary to what the dealer will tell you, those fees are negotiable but it won't be easy to get them to budge on them.   -Frank
#2193 of 2724 Re: Buying New Forester [bobfox3] by sub_lisa Aug 24, 2008 (9:09 pm)
Replying to: bobfox3 (Aug 24, 2008 2:11 pm) Thank you everyone for all of your responses/tips/advice! I really appreciate all the advice. I see that there is a lot of reference to dealer invoice. Where would I be able to get the dealer invoice price for a forester? How do I find out what the dealer invoice price is for the car and the extras. I'd like to get the 09 Forester 2.5X Limited(no Turbo), steel silver metallic, bumper corner molding kit, body side molding kit, all weather floor mats, rear bumper cover, cargo tray, EC mirror compass, luggage compartment cover, and puddle light kit. I'd like to add heated front seats, heated mirror, and the windshield wiper de-icer. What is the pzez engine? Now, I'm a lot less nervous about buying a car....thanks to all your advice. You guys give me a lot more confidence! Replies to this message: mquillen (Aug 25, 2008 3:49 am) jeffmc (Aug 25, 2008 8:38 pm) jeffmc (Aug 25, 2008 9:04 pm) sub_lisa (Aug 26, 2008 5:07 pm) jeffmc (Aug 27, 2008 10:24 am) and 4 more...
#2194 of 2724 Invoice prices? by kyfdx HOST Aug 25, 2008 (3:06 am)
Click on the Edmunds.com link at the top of the page..
#2195 of 2724 Re: Buying New Forester [sub_lisa] by mquillen Aug 25, 2008 (3:49 am)
Replying to: sub_lisa (Aug 24, 2008 9:09 pm) Sub_lisa, the cold weather package (heated seats, mirrors, wiper de-icer) is included on the Limited, you don't have to add it.
#2196 of 2724 Re: Regarding the purchase from Heuberger Motors [bpraxis] by sgloon Aug 25, 2008 (9:30 am)
Replying to: bpraxis (Aug 24, 2008 12:16 pm) Brandon,   I bought my car from Heuberger and had less than pleasant experience. I have finally (just last week) gotten all my keys/fobs/tools (and working with my car) and am just awaiting a check for reimbursement for the programming of the keys. If I get the check this week, the entire process will have taken 10 weeks. See my post at: Message #2154 and look at Message 2157 as well.   Heuberger is able to sell the cars for a lower price as they are the largest Subaru dealer in the country... ie they sell the most. Thus, they get the cars from Subaru at a lower price than those dealers who sell a lot less... They also ship the cars not only all over the country, but to Canada as well.   They definitely had the best prices that I found. And if I didn't have the major hassles with the keys/tools/fobs/manual/detailing, it definitely would have been worth it... As it is, I don't think it was worth the ordeal I went through for a car I paid $23k for...I expected a lot more. I think I would have tried harder to get my local dealer to come down to their price. I didn't think it would have made a difference, as the car was being delivered to me at no additional charge.   Good luck with your car purchase. I hope you have a wonderful experience where ever you decide to buy!
#2197 of 2724 Re: Buying New Forester [sub_lisa] by jeffmc Aug 25, 2008 (8:38 pm)
Replying to: sub_lisa (Aug 24, 2008 9:09 pm) The PZEV engine stands for "Partial Zero Emissions Vehicle". It's a lower emissions level than even some hybrids, and will be standard on any new non-turbo Forester purchased in WA or OR (or any other state which requires CA emissions standards). It's about a $200 increase over the non-PZEV engines, but you get a slight bump in horsepower (5HP, I believe) and cleaner emissions. If you buy in WA or OR, you don't have a choice of ordering one without this technology anyway... it's required by state law.
#2198 of 2724 Re: Buying New Forester [chicago2008] by bobfox3 Aug 25, 2008 (8:43 pm)
Replying to: chicago2008 (Aug 24, 2008 6:30 pm) chicago2008 and sub lisa, you both were asking about the invoice price. it has nothing to do with the sticker price on the car = don't look at the sticker price. you can find the invoice price for all trims of the '09 forester (2.5x or premium or limited, etc) plus each and every option, right here on the edmunds website. you click on new cars, search the 2009 forester, then select prices, then click on the trim you want and it will give you both msrp (sticker price) and the invoice prices. don't forget to add the destination of about $665 to invoice total before you decide how much below invoice you'll aim for. if you have trouble finding it, someone else on this forum can help direct you to it - i'm leaving town for a week and won't be checking the forum. remember to negotiate by e-mail with each dealership and use the price from one to force the others to come down. good luck - i'll be happy to help some more when i get back in town.
#2199 of 2724 Re: Buying New Forester [sub_lisa] by jeffmc Aug 25, 2008 (9:04 pm)
Replying to: sub_lisa (Aug 24, 2008 9:09 pm) Invoice, including $665 destination, on a PZEV Forester Limited is $25,231. Like mguillen said, the all-weather package (heated seats, mirrors, front wiper de-icer) is standard. Cargo tray is also standard on Limited. Popular Equipment Group 4-A adds auto-dim mirror/compass and puddle lights for $268 invoice. Body side moldings are $155 invoice, all-weather floor mats are $39 invoice, cargo cover is $108 invoice, and rear bumper cover is $51 invoice. Can't find a price for the bumper corner moldings, but I'd expect $40-$100. Grand total (without the bumper corner moldings) would be $25,852 invoice, if my math's right.   Some of those features are also available in packages that include other things not on your list, like splash guards, hood deflector, wheel arch moldings. Not sure how it compares to Edmunds' information, but you can also find a pretty good breakdown of option packages and individual options (including invoice & MSRP pricing) here: http://www.cars101.com/subaru/forester/forester2009.html#option%20packages   I'd also note that if you order a Forester rather than taking one from the lot, you could see a 10-12 week wait, so it may be worth it to take something off of the lot that has a similar group of options and add whatever is missing (if anything) from your list of desired options. If it were me, I'd pay (for example) an extra $70 for splashguards and cargo nets I didn't want rather than wait 2-3 months, but I'm sure everyone's got a different level of patience. Replies to this message: sub_lisa (Aug 26, 2008 5:07 pm) jeffmc (Aug 27, 2008 10:24 am) sub_lisa (Aug 27, 2008 10:24 pm) and 3 more...
#2200 of 2724 FInancing by chicago2008 Aug 26, 2008 (8:42 am)
Does anyone have any advice on financing? What type of down payment should be given on a 60 month finance deal? Has anyone found better rates than the 4.9 financing they have going on righ now? Replies to this message: sgloon (Aug 26, 2008 11:55 am)
#2201 of 2724 Re: FInancing [chicago2008] by sgloon Aug 26, 2008 (11:55 am)
Replying to: chicago2008 (Aug 26, 2008 8:42 am) If you do the subaru financing, there is no down payment required. You can even get your deposit back from the dealer, if you paid one. So, if approved, you can walk away with your car with no money down , but a bunch of money owed.

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