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Subaru Forester Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: anyone think prices have come down? [tomme12] by sgloon
Jul 03, 2008 (10:47 pm)
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Replying to: tomme12 (Jul 03, 2008 12:35 pm)

Tomme, you have a few places to look for invoice prices.
A quick and easy one for generic options is: http://www.cars101.com/subaru_prices.html#Forester%20prices
 
The detailed one, where you can build your own car and then find the invoice is on edmonds: http://www.edmunds.com/new/2009/subaru/forester/100992079/options.html
 
They haven't changed things for July, so it is just the 4.5% financing for the forester.
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Re: New 09 Forester Premium MT in the Driveway! [packrfan] by sgloon
Jul 03, 2008 (11:27 pm)
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Replying to: packrfan (Jun 22, 2008 12:59 pm)

See my post in 2009 forester for first MPG's. It did great on my trip!!!! Way better than EPA ratings!
 
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f178d36/1815
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Re: anyone think prices have come down? [sgloon] by tomme12
Jul 05, 2008 (4:14 pm)
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Replying to: sgloon (Jul 03, 2008 10:47 pm)

My dealer is saying that purchases prices have gone up and lease rate has stayed the same. Do I have any wiggle room on this to work out a better deal? I feel like I should be able to lease a 3 year 36k x with premium pack for zero down and $300 a month. (not sure what residual would be, etc)
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Re: anyone think prices have come down? [tomme12] by sgloon
Jul 06, 2008 (8:29 am)
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Replying to: tomme12 (Jul 05, 2008 4:14 pm)

My general rule of thumb is that you always have wiggle room. Don't listen to the "sad" stories. Whether they are true or not does not matter, as you want the car for the price you want it in order to be happy.
 
You know what you want to lease the car for. Figure out what you want for residual. Then go in and negotiate with the dealer. If you can, negotiate with whoever has the power to make the decision. And be willing to walk away if you don't get the deal you want.
 
Remember, there are lots of other dealers out there, and probably at least one of them will want your business at your price (as long as it is reasonable).
 
Good luck.
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by tomme12
Jul 06, 2008 (10:27 am)
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Thanks for your valuable input! So call me crazy with this next statement.... I could sign a 3 year lease, keep it low, with close to nothing down, but keep a higher residual. Why? My theory is that cars that get 20/25 mpg or high in today's market, will be obsolete in 3 years because of technology. The 40mpg car is probably around the corner. I would *not* want the option purchase the car at the end of th lease because:
- technology has changed from 2009 to 2012
- our own reasons such as family has grown, or jobs changed or even relocation.
 
For bartering purposes at the table, I *could* throw out on the table a higher residual and that would in fact lower my monthly payments?
 
Thanks much!!
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Re: [tomme12] by kyfdx HOST
Jul 06, 2008 (10:30 am)
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Replying to: tomme12 (Jul 06, 2008 10:27 am)

A higher residual would be worse for the bank.. That would mean you are paying off less of the car during the lease term.. I'm not sure how that would benefit them in a negoatiation?
 
Residuals are generally non-negotiable.. The banks sets them for the model, term and mileage allowance.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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by tomme12
Jul 06, 2008 (10:35 am)
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ahhhhh... I gotcha.... ok I understand a little better now.
 
Thanks!
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Re: [tomme12] by djmacedonas
Jul 06, 2008 (11:00 am)
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Replying to: tomme12 (Jul 06, 2008 10:27 am)

Not so fast there Tomme12,
 
Your argument in favor of a lease doesn't hold water...
 
#1 It is very unlikely that new technology will give you a 40mpg SUV equivalent to the Forester in only 3 years
 
#2 If that unlikely possibility is realized, it will be gradual, not overnight. Buying will always give you the option to "get out" early by trading in should you notice that trend. Leasing will keep you in that "fuel inefficient" vehicle for the duration of the lease terms.
 
#3 Speaking of "fuel inefficient" my limited AT forester is averaging 24.5 mpg around town, My trip to Atlantic City gave me 28-29 mpg yesterday. This in a vehicle that has only 1000 miles (which I put on in two weeks). A lease term would have limited me to 12000 miles...at the rate I'm going, I'll need twice as many miles than a typical lease offers. Something to consider.
 
I'm not really keen on leases. People who have much more financial savvy than either you or I have design them, and they have already taken into account technological advances and market trends. They aren't designing the leases so they are stuck with an undesirable vehicle in three years. Lease if you want, it certainly has some advantages (like keeping more of your money in the bank...initially) but do read this before you do:
 
http://biz.yahoo.com/pfg/e16buylease/
 
Best,
 
djm
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Placed my order! by mwasnidge
Jul 07, 2008 (1:08 pm)
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Whoo hoo! So I took the plunge and placed my order today. Here's what I got:
 
Spark Silver Metallic (really wanted Satin White Pearl, but hated the light gray interior), Automatic, Premium Package with the following-
 
All Weather Package
Aero Crossbars
Body Side Molding
Wheel Arch Molding
Splash Guards
Rear Bumper Cover
Fog Lights
Puddle Lights
Auto dimming Mirror w/ Compass
Cargo Tray
Luggage Compartment Cover
Dual Tailpipe Cover
Tweeter Kit
Ipod/phone Console Tray
All Weather Mats
 
My price: $24,556 + $120 service fee, tax, title and license.
 
It's due in mid August. Exciting!!

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