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Replying to: slaterac (May 13, 2008 10:17 am) Usually all the cars available at dealers' lots have some extras. Dimming mirror, or spash guard, or something else. Usually between $500 and $1000 worth of extras. If you want a car from the lot, you have to take it with those extras, no matter if you want them or not, but you can configure the car with the same extras in Edmunds to compare the MSRP and invoice price, and see if the dealer is offering you a good price. For everyone asking if the price they got is a good deal, I would advice them to check what other people is getting in the same market. It is really better to compare the price to what other dealers can offer in your area, so ask for prices around and see what price they give you. Even if you are convinced to buy the car at the dealer next to your house, you can use the price from a dealer 100 miles away to compare, and to negotiate. But keep in mind the prices can be completely different in 2 different cities, and still both be a good deal. Personally, I think a bad deal is one close to MSRP, and when it is around the invoice price, it is not too bad. From there, you have to look for the lowest you can get. It seems some people is getting them at invoice, and some people is getting them way below invoice. So configure the car with the exact options the dealer is offering you at edmunds, and print the invoice price, and try to get the price below it  When I finally decide if I buy the Forester, I will let you know at what price. Maybe I take the decission this week. |
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Replying to: slaterac (May 13, 2008 6:56 am) As others mentioned, as we don't know your exact options nor the MSRP and listed Invoice Price, it is hard to say. I saw the suggestions on the board here for you to be able to get that information. My general rule of thumb (at least for the area I live in with lots of subaru dealers to pick from...) The max I plan to pay is Invoice minus (dealer holdback amount). Without the consumer reports info, you can estimate dealer holdback to be about 3% of MSRP. It varies a bit depending on the make, location, etc...but it is a good rough number to start with. For myself, in my area, that would be the high end that I would expect the dealer to start negotiating from. While I start somewhere lower...because, of course, I want a better deal. From the bids I have gotten so far, some dealers are starting higher, some are starting lower and some are even much lower. But, if I recall, you are in NY state, so the territory will matter as well...how are they selling there...sitting on the lots or flying off? Now the 250 gas card is $250 toward the price of the car and something you know you will use. If the dealer knows you are serious, they have things, like this gas card, or in a previous post, the first 3 years of regular maintenance paid for... At some point in your negotiations, they may suggest other items...you decide whether what they are offering is worth something to you. And whether it is worth adding to the total cost you are willing to pay for the car. The main thing to remember is to keep your emotions, ie how much you like this car, out of the negotiation. Be bullet proof to dealer flattery. Do all your research before you start the negotiation. Set your goal (optimum price) for the negotiation before you start negotiating, know what you are willing to pay (max) and at what point you will walk away. And then, being willing to walk away if you don't get what you want. In the end, only you can determine what is a good value for you. If you are happy with what you get the car for, including these extras. Drive away happy! Good Luck this weekend! |
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Replying to: KarenS (Jul 28, 2003 8:07 am) All my purchases in the past 8 years or so have been Saturns because I hate all this back and forth negotiation. How does $18650 sound to people?
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Replying to: aredfield (May 15, 2008 5:52 am) They get a kickback when you finance with them. Some are willing to give you back this kickback if you finance with them... so suggest not telling them you will pay cash until you have closed the deal. Though always talk in terms of price of car, not the "monthly" payment. You can agree to a lot more without realizing it. I haven't been looking at Imprezzas...but it is good to post the MSRP and Invoice cost when you ask on the boards, so we can be more helpful. 
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I seem to have completely forgotten this. When everyone speak of price quotes: "Invoice" or "Invoice plus $500," does that include destination charges, or are they added on top of that, like sales tax. So, if someone posts that they got their Forester for $24,000, that figure includes destination, and only taxes, license, transfer are added? Gotta' sharpen my negotiation skills for that Forester I want in the driveway. |
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Hi Gurus, i want to buy a 2.5X 4dr SUV AWD w/Premium Pkg,VDC ,this is my first time to buy a car~i have no idea before until i see this forums~thx your guys~and here is Edmund's TMV calculations MSRP Invoice National Base Price $23,495 $22,079 F9G Popular Equipment Group 2 $564 $410 Includes wheel arch moldings and splash guards F9S Premium Sound Package 2 $547 $356 Includes iPod interface, iPod/phone console tray and subwoofer/amplifier R8D Security System Shock Sensor $127 $83 B8A Floor Mats, All Weather $69 $39 Destination Charge $665 $665 Total with Options $25,467 $23,632 i am in south california, How would I go about determining a good starting offer on my part? and what do your gays think the best OTD prize is? best regard
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Replying to: mickxian (May 15, 2008 6:36 pm) Hope this helps
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Replying to: phdhusky (May 15, 2008 7:04 pm) 
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Replying to: mickxian (May 15, 2008 8:26 pm)
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Replying to: phdhusky (May 16, 2008 12:55 pm) Destination and Advertising not include tax, licence, Doc fee or any dealer installed accessories do your guys think i can make more down?
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