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Re: Help! '09 Subaru Buying Experiences! [victor_pv] by pgb0517
May 11, 2008 (12:56 pm)
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Replying to: victor_pv (May 11, 2008 10:33 am)

Excellent points, victor_pv. I didn't mean that he should automatically offer 4% over dealer cost (not invoice, btw) and make the sales rep prematurely happy. What I tried to convey was that roughly 4% over dealer cost (or as close as we can get to what that figure is) is closer to a fair price than the quote he got. No doubt lots of buyers would consider even that highway robbery, so certainly, get as many bids as there are dealers in your area and offer as low as you feel comfortable with, and as low as your desire to haggle will let you begin. If the dealer won't even hit cost plus 4%, I'd try real hard to find another dealer. If you can get it for less, great!
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Re: Help! '09 Subaru Buying Experiences! [victor_pv] by phdhusky
May 11, 2008 (7:14 pm)
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Replying to: victor_pv (May 11, 2008 10:33 am)

When I bought my car the reason we were able to negotiate the best deal was because I did my homework and had all the dealers wanting my business. Once you get your internet price you can always work down from it, as we did. Also try asking to speak directly to the manager as when we ask for the manager he quickly responded to our counter offer without having to go back and look at prices again. And yes he told us about the program where if he sold a certain amount of cars he would make an extra 100 on each car, etc. If you push them enough they tell your more info but they still make money from financing, service and such. You just have to be patient and know what you want.
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Re: Help! '09 Subaru Buying Experiences! [pgb0517] by sgloon
May 11, 2008 (7:27 pm)
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Replying to: pgb0517 (May 11, 2008 12:56 pm)

Have you figured out how to find out what dealer cost (not invoice) actually is?
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Re: Help! '09 Subaru Buying Experiences! [sgloon] by pgb0517
May 11, 2008 (8:26 pm)
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Replying to: sgloon (May 11, 2008 7:27 pm)

Sgloon, there is the known information and the unknown. For the known information, use a service such as Consumer Reports' car pricing kit, which doesn't cost much -- check out their Web site. That will tell you the invoice, holdback and any other available incentives or adjustments to dealer cost. The unknown factors, as victor_pv pointed out, are highly variable from dealer to dealer and among manufacturers. Check the recent posts for discussions on that aspect of the horse trade.
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Input Re: Lease & Price Quote For 09 LL Bean Model by jverrico
May 12, 2008 (3:26 pm)
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I've settled on the '09 LL Bean model as the one that fits what my wife and I are looking for - I've test driven and researched about a dozen cars and small SUV's and the Forester is the right mix of all the must have items for upstate NY - awd, great safety rating, decent mpg, heated seats, room for kids/cargo, etc.
 
However, I am not sure our local dealer is giving us good price quotes - I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts. Here's what we're being offered:
 
LLBean with some basic options like all weather floor mats, aero cross bars, side molding, and a few other minor extras, purchase price $26,306. Lease quote is 42 months (?) and 15,000 miles w/$0 down, $439 month. Purchase quotes are 48 mos/$669 month and 63 months (another ?) for $529 month.
 
Any thoughts on the lease quote. The residual is $14,500 (don't have exact #) and I have not been told the money factor but it has to be around 7.2% rate.
 
Thanks for any input, help, etc. I want to buy the car, but am not sure about those rates & prices.
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Re: Input Re: Lease & Price Quote For 09 LL Bean Model [jverrico] by snowbelter
May 12, 2008 (4:36 pm)
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Replying to: jverrico (May 12, 2008 3:26 pm)

Take a look at the prices, online, at Vanbortelsubaru, near Rochester. If you're not too far away, your dealer ought to match their prices. Your quote may be a little high depending on whether you are including shipping and what those few "minor extras" add up to. Can't help you with lease numbers.
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Re: Help! '09 Subaru Buying Experiences! [pgb0517] by sgloon
May 12, 2008 (9:18 pm)
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Replying to: pgb0517 (May 11, 2008 8:26 pm)

Yep! It is those unknowns which make it harder to deal. I have this gut feeling that there is really a lot more room to play with than we know. Definitely more than I know! I've worked in manufacturing in the past and it amazes me how much markup there is compared to actual production costs.
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Re: Input Re: Lease & Price Quote For 09 LL Bean Model [jverrico] by slaterac
May 13, 2008 (6:50 am)
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Replying to: jverrico (May 12, 2008 3:26 pm)

Hello All,
 
I just wanted to give you the latest information and see what you thought about this. The dealer that I might go see tonight, otherwise this weekend, is offering 1% over invoice, a good trade in value as long as the car is in fair condition (which it is), and a $250 gas card as well as a good finance rate for qualified buyers, I'm hoping we fit that because I don't know what exactly that means.
 
What do you all think? I can get the Limited edition (that was the LL Bean before the name change) for under $26,000 and I've told him that if he gives me what we want for the trade in then we will get the Limited edition.
 
Thanks for all your comments. I'll check back in a little bit as I have a meeting to attend.
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Re: Help! '09 Subaru Buying Experiences! [pgb0517] by slaterac
May 13, 2008 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: pgb0517 (May 10, 2008 7:12 pm)

Pqb0517,
 
Thank you for all your help. Can you look up a LL Bean edition for me as well. I unfortunately do not below to consumer reports. Also, The deal I was getting was after the trade in. They really wanted 25k+ for the car and I said no. So they really wanted $2000 more. Look at my last post and tell me what you think of that deal.
 
They are going to give me the papers and show me the invoice price of the car and add 1%.
 
Thanks again for all your help.
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Re: Help! '09 Subaru Buying Experiences! [sgloon] by slaterac
May 13, 2008 (6:56 am)
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Replying to: sgloon (May 10, 2008 8:50 pm)

sgloon,
 
Thank you for all your responses. I talked to an internet dealer about 40 miles away and he gave me the offer I posted before. He said he doesn't play any games because he realizes that I'm not a person that would just walk onto the lot since I live 40 miles away. Let me know what you think of that deal.

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