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Re: Help! '09 Subaru Buying Experiences! [imm1962] by sgloon
May 10, 2008 (8:55 am)
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Replying to: imm1962 (May 10, 2008 5:11 am)

Is the Doc fee for title transfer and taxes? Or is it some extra charge from the dealer?
I agree with pgb, it sounds a little HI. If it is a dealer fee, it is a lot HI. what state?
 
Get other quotes.
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Re: Help! '09 Subaru Buying Experiences! [pgb0517] by imm1962
May 10, 2008 (11:10 am)
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Replying to: pgb0517 (May 10, 2008 7:52 am)

I'm in Virginia. May be I will go to Fitzmall...
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Re: Help! '09 Subaru Buying Experiences! [imm1962] by pgb0517
May 10, 2008 (12:03 pm)
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Replying to: imm1962 (May 10, 2008 11:10 am)

The '09 LL Bean we bought in Austin a few days ago had about $180 in total fees: $50 documentation fee for dealer paperwork (max allowed by state law; they don't have to charge it but they almost always do); and the rest was state fees: title, license and the inaugural state inspection (which lasts two years on a new car). Some people argue against paying the doc fee. However, I figure by the time you get to that point, $50 one way or another is not a deal-killer, especially if you make your deal knowing that extra $ will be on the tab. But $400 sounds like the dealer trying to take you for a ride. Ask them to itemize it for you.
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Re: Help! '09 Subaru Buying Experiences! [sgloon] by slaterac
May 10, 2008 (3:17 pm)
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Replying to: sgloon (May 09, 2008 11:56 pm)

Sgloon,
 
Thank you for your help. I'm going to ask for internet prices right now for the dealers here in Delaware as well as the one in salisbury maryland and see what the prices are like. I bought my car two years ago and was able to get a great price on it from Mazda and now I'm looking at the 09 subaru for my fiance.
 
I know how to deal with the dealers and just walk out if I have to but I'm going to do as you suggest and I'm going to print everything out as well and take it into my car so if they question me I'll show them the price on kbb for her car and all that.
 
I really like the car and we would have gotten one on Thursday but that doesn't mean that I'm going to stop looking because that's no way to get the best deal possible.
 
Thanks again for your help!
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Re: Help! '09 Subaru Buying Experiences! [pgb0517] by slaterac
May 10, 2008 (3:20 pm)
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Replying to: pgb0517 (May 10, 2008 7:52 am)

$417 over invoice sounds good to me since the current price is about $2,000 over invoice. I didn't get to really talk to the dealer one on one because there were family members there as well. I think I might go in tomorrow or something by myself and see what kind of deal I can get. I'm going to go online now though and ask for internet prices.
 
Thanks again for everyone's help. I appreciate it!
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Re: Help! '09 Subaru Buying Experiences! [slaterac] by slaterac
May 10, 2008 (3:31 pm)
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Replying to: slaterac (May 10, 2008 3:20 pm)

What website do you go to to get dealer quotes for numerous dealers in the area? Or do you call them? I was going to call the one 30 minutes away and then the one in salisbury but I wasn't sure if that's what you all did or not. Thanks!
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My New Subaru Forester by phdhusky
May 10, 2008 (6:53 pm)
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So finally pulled the trigger and got the Forester. As I am graduating this Sunday my parents were up (CT) and we went to look for cars. I knew all my numbers and had my quote but ended up buying a model with a few more options. Got a 2.5X Premium with sport grill, wheel well molding, splash gaurds, rear bumper cover, spoiler, wheel locks for 23200. I thought this was a fantastic price as and it didn't take too long, just a little dealing from my father.
 
I passed on the base premium with floor mats, rear bumper cover, and splash gaurds for 22500. So if you are in CT you can def get that or better if you do your hw and get a couple of dealers in the game.
 
Harte Subaru is great to work with and the internet service is nice.
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Re: Help! '09 Subaru Buying Experiences! [slaterac] by pgb0517
May 10, 2008 (8:12 pm)
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Replying to: slaterac (May 10, 2008 3:20 pm)

Difference between MSRP and invoice is pretty much meaningless. MSRP is just that -- a "suggested" retail price. And the invoice doesn't tell what the dealer paid for the car. I got my '09 LL Bean week before last for $200 over invoice; others are getting even better deals, even below invoice, depending on where they live.
 
Most pricing guides I see, including Consumer Reports, suggest that true dealer cost plus 4 percent is fair. I've also seen car-buying gurus suggest you settle for dealer cost plus 3 percent. Of course, these are only guidelines, since lots of things influence what a dealer is willing to take.
 
I ran your specs on Edmunds and got the same invoice as you. Consumer Reports shows the dealer holdback to be $705. So the dealer cost should be invoice less holdback, or ($23,066 - $705) = $22,361.
 
Allowing for 4% profit to dealer, your cost could be as low as $23,255, $228 less than the quote you got. That's less than one percentage point over invoice, pretty much exactly the same markup I paid for my LL Bean. I hope this information is helpful.
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Re: Help! '09 Subaru Buying Experiences! [slaterac] by sgloon
May 10, 2008 (9:50 pm)
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Replying to: slaterac (May 10, 2008 3:31 pm)

The best price quotes are generally on the Internet. Don't ask for a quote until you know exactly what you want. My local Subaru salesman just told me that as a floor salesman, he can't offer the lowest prices offered through his dealership, but the internet people can. Although, at another dealership, I have found a really motivated salesman who seems to have more leeway with dealing who is willing to beat the internet prices, and anyone else. So things might be different depending upon how each dealership operates.
 
There are several websites that you can go to to get dealer quotes. A few are:
 
Subaru.com - you can actually check each dealers inventory and ask for that car.
Edmonds.com
Cars.com
Autotracker.com
Invoicedealers.com
 
Good luck!
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Re: Help! '09 Subaru Buying Experiences! [slaterac] by sgloon
May 10, 2008 (9:59 pm)
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Replying to: slaterac (May 10, 2008 3:17 pm)

Your welcome, Slaterac!
 
Sounds like you really like this car...just don't let them know how much!

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