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Re: What is the difference between "customer cash" and "cash back" promos? by dcdame
Jan 09, 2008 (10:57 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 09, 2008 7:45 am)

What I found appalling was the way car dealers, during the end of the year, advertised heavily about the tax increase ("20% sales tax increase after 1/2/08!"), yet failed to let customers know that on the same day the new 6% rate went into effect, a new law would also be going into effect changing the way the tax on a car sale is assessed.
 
Before the increase, the 5% tax was assessed on the new vehicle purchase price, but now the tax is assessed, at 6%, on the difference between the sale price and the trade. So, if you bought a $20K car on 1/1/08 and had a $12K trade, you'd have paid 5% tax on $20K - i.e., $1000. If you waited two days and bought a $20K car with a $12K trade, you'd pay 6% tax on $8K, i.e., $480 - so you'd pay $520 less if you waited to buy. MD dealers publicized the taxes based on the assumption of no trade (i.e., "buy now before the 20% tax increase goes into effect!") to get people into their showrooms, even though many (most?) people trade a vehicle -- they didn't mention the potential tax benefit of waiting. Cash buyers and anyone having a trade worth less than 16.67% (1/6) of the purchase price would have been better off by buying before the increase (all other figures being equal) - everyone else would be have been worse off buying earlier.
 
I'm not thrilled the sales tax rate went up (still, it is the first increase since 1977, so I'm not surprised), but the change on the assessment method does remove one of the reasons I had considered keeping my car longer (i.e., not getting any credit for the tax I'd already paid on 2005 the purchase for the Baja). I'd still be smart (finances-wises) to keep the Baja for a few more years -- it's a great vehicle in general, except I'm tired of raising the heavy cover over the bed. Of course, even if I decide to trade the Baja, I've still got to make up my mind on what to get - a Forester or an Outback. Decisions, decisions!
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Re: What is the difference between "customer cash" and "cash back" promos? [dcdame] by p0926
Jan 09, 2008 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: dcdame (Jan 09, 2008 10:57 am)

Hey just be happy that your sales tax is ONLY 6%! We're stuck with a 9% sales tax and I think parts of CA are even higher!
 
-Frank
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Re: What is the difference between "customer cash" and "cash back" promos? [p0926] by erics6
Jan 09, 2008 (12:34 pm)
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Replying to: p0926 (Jan 09, 2008 11:28 am)

What's a sales tax?
 
-Oregon resident.
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Re: What is the difference between "customer cash" and "cash back" promos? by tifighter
Jan 09, 2008 (12:58 pm)
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Replying to: erics6 (Jan 09, 2008 12:34 pm)


 
What is this state income tax thingy I hear about?
 
-Washington Neighbor
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Re: What is the difference between "customer cash" and "cash back" promos? [tifighter] by erics6
Jan 09, 2008 (1:15 pm)
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Replying to: tifighter (Jan 09, 2008 12:58 pm)

Only 9% ) minus the kicker refund. (The Oregon Constitution requires that, when there is at least a 2 percent difference between the final revenue forecast for the biennium and the actual end of the biennium revenue, the surplus be returned to individual income taxpayers.)
 
Then there's that darn property tax thingy too.
 
Sure see a lot of Washington plates at the I-205 Costco in Portland though.
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Re: What is the difference between "customer cash" and "cash back" promos? by jeffmc
Jan 09, 2008 (1:20 pm)
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Replying to: erics6 (Jan 09, 2008 1:15 pm)

Despite the fact that there's a Costco across the river in Vancouver, WA.
 
My next Mac will likely come from Oregon.
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Re: What is the difference between "customer cash" and "cash back" promos? [p0926] by ateixeira
Jan 10, 2008 (9:30 am)
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Replying to: p0926 (Jan 09, 2008 11:28 am)

Right next door, Deleware has no state tax. Great outlet shopping, too.
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How's this deal for a 2007 Sports XT? by taun
Jan 10, 2008 (4:23 pm)
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I've been wanting a Sports XT, especially the '08 with the STi wheels, front chin spoiler, and rear spoiler, but the incentives aren't as good as the '07s. Should I bite on the following? New 2007 Forester Sports 2.5 XT 5spd Manual Urban Grey with Spoiler and Cargo Tray. MSRP $27,048. Quoted price before taxes and fees: $22,548. That price includes the $2000 incentive. According to my research, that's $2736 below invoice!
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Re: How's this deal for a 2007 Sports XT? [taun] by dcdame
Jan 10, 2008 (4:50 pm)
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Replying to: taun (Jan 10, 2008 4:23 pm)

It's not the exact same model (different transmission), but FWIW, Jones Junction Subaru (in Bel Air, MD) has an 2007 Urban Grey Sports 2.5XT with AT - MSRP $29,457 ($27,569 invoice) offered on its website at $23,969, i.e., $3600 below invoice ($5506 below MSRP), so you might be able to get the price down on the one you're looking at even more. OTOH, the demand for an XT with an AT might be less, so the dealer is trying harder to move it.
 
http://www.jonesjunctionsubaru.com/newcars.aspx?InventoryId=19207061
 
I saw it in their showroom on Saturday -- looks sharp!
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Re: How's this deal for a 2007 Sports XT? [taun] by jeffmc
Jan 10, 2008 (8:09 pm)
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Replying to: taun (Jan 10, 2008 4:23 pm)

Yeah, that's a pretty good deal on the '07. They've probably got a few hundred more they COULD drop.
 
The downsides of that deal are that when the '09 comes out in 2 months it'll be a 2-year-old Forester in an old bodystyle, and it's either been sitting a long time on the lot, or has been test driven a lot, neither of which is ideal. In that same 2-month timeframe, you'll probably be able to get pretty darn close to that same price on an '08 with the stuff you like.
 
If you're patient, wait a couple months for a sweet deal on the '08 you REALLY want. If you've gotta have it now, see if the dealer will drop another $500 on the '07, and let 'em know that YOU know it's gonna be a 2-year-old model very soon.
 
My recommendation would be for patience, but either way, you'll be paying a very good price for a very good vehicle.

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