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#164 of 2769 did i mention our 18k+ prop tax bill by njswamplands Jan 08, 2004 (9:18 am)
we are off topic????? LOL
#165 of 2769 by ken_from_nj Jan 08, 2004 (12:36 pm)
swamp - you need more ratables in yr town.
#166 of 2769 Incentives by zman Jan 10, 2004 (10:44 am)
I'm trying to work my way through the current pricing for a Forester XS. I understand that there are no cash rebates currently for either buyer or dealer, but that I could take advantage of low financing. So far, so good. What I don't get is the "DEALER HOLDBACK." How does that effect my pricing?   Apparently, invoice for the car with the options I want is $22,075. The Edmund's "What Others are Paying" price for that car would be $23,021. Yet, Fitzmall has that car (with the exact same options)for $21,401; The same car as calculated on the VanBortel website would be $22,121. I want to go to my local dealer with some figures to support my negotiations, but these ones that I have researched seem so widely gapped that I feel uneasy--like I'm missing something. Am I? Is it holdback?   Also, would the Fitzmall price or even the VanBortel price prohibit me from using Subaru's financing?
#167 of 2769 Zman by steve_ HOST Jan 10, 2004 (1:31 pm)
Here's a Dealer Holdback link.   I'm not sure why the numbers are coming out with such a gap.   Steve, Host
#168 of 2769 Holdback by zman Jan 10, 2004 (2:34 pm)
Steve,   The link was very helpful, although I got thrown off track a bit when I got to the end where it said that Subaru's holdback was, "3% of the Total MSRP (Amount may differ in Northeastern U.S.)" I live in upstate NY, which I assume qualifies as Northeastern U.S. Can I find out what our holdback is? Less than 3% I would guess.   I also note that the salesperson makes no commission off the holdback, so I see why it it's a touchy issue. Sounds like the best strategy would be to special order a vehicle using the owner of the dealership as your salesperson.   As for the discrepancy in the prices I found on the internet, I wonder if maybe some of the prices did not reflect accurately the new incentive structure. However, the Fitzmall people I talked to said the price was still good. Anyone have experience (positive or negative) working with them?   -The Mudge
#169 of 2769 New England by dcm61 Jan 10, 2004 (6:24 pm)
It's a whole different ball game in New England. Subarus are distributed by Subaru of New England (SNE) which is different than the rest of the country (Subaru of America Distribution Company (SDC)). SNE charges slightly higher prices and may have different dealer / customer incentives than the rest of us. So, you can't really compare prices with fitzmall in MD or elsewhere out of SNE. I'm not sure if Van Bortel is part of SNE or SDC.   DaveM   P.S. I'm not 100% positive I got the distribution companies names correct.
#170 of 2769 Holdback by raybear Jan 12, 2004 (5:52 am)
Van Bortel is not part of SNE, Subaru of New England covers just the six New England States. I'm pretty sure holdback is the same everywhere. Some sites, including Edmunds, have not updated dealer costs in quite some time. Note that transportation is now $595 where Edmunds lists it as $550. Also, I think we're showing 2003 prices as 2004's. There has been a price increase announced recently too.   And...we get $250 dealer cash on an XS, $500 on an X and zilch on XT.
#171 of 2769 Updates by zman Jan 13, 2004 (3:41 am)
How often does Edmund's update the prices, in particular the "What Others Are Paying" line? Can I assume, for example, that the current figure does not take into account the fact that specific Forester buyer cash incentives ended January 5 (replaced by long-term low financing incentives)?
#172 of 2769 Updates by raybear Jan 13, 2004 (7:28 am)
Edmunds' service provider is the one at fault, they haven't updated in too long a time, and now we've got a price increase on new deliveries. The incentives are the same on Forester, but if you take the special financing you'll pay more as the dealer loses the incentive.
#173 of 2769 Incentives by zman Jan 13, 2004 (10:10 am)
Maybe I'm not looking in the right places, but neither on the Subaru site nor the Edmund's site am I finding that there are currently any cash incentives (customer or dealer) that apply to the Forester. How will seeking special financing (1.9% 0ver 60 months) on a car in stock effect my negotiations?

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