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#29 of 68 So now it is <b>2006</b> Golf V?
Apr 03, 2004 (1:09 pm)
I have been holding out for the new Golf for many months now; hoping it would be here this fall. But now I see Edmunds has marked it 2006 Golf V. What's wrong with VW?
Is it true that even if BMW-1 series coes to the US, it will only be the Sedan and not the hatchback? Any chances of Audi A3 coming to USA?
All I want is a dependable hatchback with good mileage - preferably diesel / hybrid. Toyota Prius - they said they have a 12-month waiting list. Maybe Mazda 3 or Scion?
Apr 03, 2004 (1:12 pm)
While, you are describing some more expensive cars, you may want to look at a VW R32, you might want to try a Civic Si.
Apr 06, 2004 (10:45 am)
... Note that the A3 is indeed coming to the U.S. and actually shouldn't be priced that much higher than the Golf, given what the A4 goes for...
#32 of 68 Audi A3?
Apr 06, 2004 (2:31 pm)
That would be great... but I see nothing on edmunds.com or on audiusa.com. Where did you find this info? Thanks!
#34 of 68 The new Golf.
Apr 11, 2004 (7:13 pm)
I'm new to this board and have a long background of working with VW's (since 82) and currently work in a VW dealership as a service advisor. Here's what we've been told thus far about the new Golf.
We will probably get the existing engine range to start, though, the diesel at this point is still up in the air. Diesels, if they come, will not be sold in California as they cannot meet the emmissions requirements there. Prices will be probably be higher than current models, but we don't know how much. As it is currently, the Passat is less expensive in the USA than in Europe (I was there last year and compared prices in a dealership over there, to ours).
I have been told by a VW corporate person that the aim of VW is not to be a mass merchandiser of vehicles, but to move the brand up market; I took this to mean that the vehicle will be a fair percentage higher than our current model and that the vehicle will not be sold in the US until they think they have it right! (Given the issues of coils and window regulators, that's probably a smart thing). dennis
#35 of 68 If They Want to Move the Brand Up Market, Move the Service Up Market...
Apr 13, 2004 (9:27 am)
VW overexpanded in the US without adding adequate service bays or, in the San Francisco area, realistic service hours for working families. They need better service. I can deal with a car that breaks down more than a commodity car like a Toyota, but why can I get my Toyota serviced on MY schedule, while the VW was agony to get serviced?
Apr 14, 2004 (1:50 am)
If the new Golf is heavier (just a guess, new generations usually are) won't the current base engine make it really slow for a car at its price?
Apr 14, 2004 (4:31 am)
The car magazines have all stated the new base engine will be a 5 cylinder engine with about 150 hp. The optional 2.0 turbo four cylinder will have 200 hp. If the 5 cylinder doesn't make it, I would expect to see a nonturbo version of the new 2.0 multivalve engine. The accepted word has been that the current 2.0 will be dropped. I don't think VW wants to continue to embarrass itself by installing such a low tech engine in an all new car.
#38 of 68 Is the "5 Cylinder" a Current Euro Motor?
Apr 14, 2004 (7:28 am)
The reports I have read are that, in Europe, there is a normally aspirated 4 cylinder 1.6 that makes 115 hp (same as existing North American 2.0) and a normally aspirated 4 cylinder 2.0 that makes 150...so the 150 hp sounds right...but I haven't read anything about a 5 cylinder engine - is that brand new?
I'd be really surprised if VW invests in a new 5 cylinder, normally aspirated 2.0 engine when they clearly have been pushing turbos as an alternative for those desiring better performance. Since VW has been too cheap to upgrade the normally aspirated 2.0 to multi valves, variable valve timing, and double over head cams, I doubt they will spend the enormous sums required to design, test, and gear up to build a totally new engine.
In some ways it would be cheaper for VW to come out with a "lower boost" turbo (like with the PT Cruiser, which has a high output, intercooled turbo, and a non-intercooled, lower output turbo) than come up with one extra cylinder and all the hardware to go with it (the valve train etc). This is somewhat feasible, as a marketing tool, since the turbo has risen in power over the past 5 years from its early mediocre output. They could just "niche under" the present turbo.
I do agree that when I got my 2001 Golf, I was pretty upset that the 2.0 normally aspirated was so low tech, way behind the curve. In reality, it had good freeway punch, because it was geared low - it was running 4000 rpm at 80 mph - I didn't have to throw a down shift to scoot up from 60 to 80, but at the same time, it didn't get rough or particularly noisy if I ran it up to 100 mph. For some reason it didn't run out of steam at the upper rpm range, despite the fact that it peaks torque very low in the rpm range - around 2200 rpm as I recall.