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#10 of 764 Well.. Look at this... by wsag26 Aug 18, 2003 (7:12 am)
MotorTrend Magazine reported that the 2004 Maxima was to close to the Infiniti G35. The Navigator and Escalade aren't 'dressed up' like you like to call it. There on the same platform. There is no way an Escalade can take of it's clothes and look like a Suburban. They use the same frame, but look nothing alike. Now... isn't that the TRUTH.   Nissan's Maxima I believe is too close to the g35. I don't know about you, but Infiniti/Nissan sucks, except for there Maxima and Z and G35. Nissan is turning into the GM of all Japanese vehicles. VW is doing it. BMW is doing it. They all have a lot of money, and still there doing it.   It isn't my fault. I love Cadillac's new vehicles and even if there on a platform, they look nothing once so ever like there cousins. But Nissan and the G35 look farmiliar. There too close in relationship and I hate that. I don't agree with some of GM's vehicles like the   2004 Canyon/Colorado 2002 Sunfire/Cavalier   They look too much the same. You can say they don't, but I think they do. You may think there wrong, but it is my opinion.
#11 of 764 by bowke28 Aug 18, 2003 (7:42 am)
the funny thing is that the maxima is NOTHING like the G35. it WAS on the I35 platform, but not anymore. the G35 is infiniti's version of the altima, not the maxima.
#12 of 764 by carpeople Aug 18, 2003 (8:05 am)
Bowke: What? WSAG: WHAT?   OK, first of all, if the G is like anything, than its like the G. It is REAR WHEEL DRIVE. Caddy Escalade shares everything with the Subruban except engine and wood on the inside. They share more than the platform, my friend.   The '04 Maxima is FWD and the G is RWD. They have nothing in common but the engine, which share different outputs. The Max looks nothing like the G. I would like any proof of info where a real car site said a Max was like the G. The Max is the family sports car. The G is the Sports Sedan.   "Nissan is turning into the GM of all Japanese vehicles."   That kinda doesn't go with what you said in your first paragraph, dont you think?   The G35 looks NOTHING like any car on the road, espescially Nissans. If I knew how to get pics up on the message board I would show you(any help?).   How about this. Every GMC vehicle is a copycat of a Chevy. The H3 is based on the trailblazer. The Vue shares alot of its parts with the new Equinox, not just the platform. Just because they dont have the same headlights and taillights doesn't mean they aren't the same, they only trick the untrained eye .   "You may think there wrong", they are. An Escalade IS a dressed up Suburban. And Escalade EXT IS a dressed up Avalanche. A Navigator IS a dressed up Expedition. An Aviator is pretty much dressed up Explorer, but does some things to differentiate itself, not like teh Mountaineer.
#13 of 764 by carpeople Aug 18, 2003 (8:32 am)
Found out how to do images.....   Now I can post pics .   Navi and Expedition:     The Escalade int. vs. Yukon interior.
#14 of 764 how to you figure? by dieselone Aug 18, 2003 (9:03 am)
It may be true that the Nissan took the Maxima to upscale and I agree the styling hasn't completely won me over. I guarantee that a Escalade has more parts in common with a tahoe/suburban than the maxima has with a G35. The Max is fwd & the g35 is rwd, about the only thing they share is the 3.5 v6 that is specifically tuned for each application (I'm sure they share some switch gear etc). And they look absolutely nothing a like. Since I do have a subscription to MotorTrend I believe what they were referring to is the Maxima is to close to the G35's target market and Nissan/Infinity may have some cannibalization of sales between the two.   Go look at the specs between the max & g35 vs Escalade & tahoe and you tell me which is more alike.   Here are the specs:   WB g35 112.2 / Max 111.2 width g35 69 / max 71.7 Length g35 186.5 / max 193.5   wb Escal 116 / Tahoe 116 width Escal 78.9 / Tahoe 78.9 Length Escal 198.9 / Tahoe 196.9   The extra 2" in lenght is probably from the giant sized Cadilac emblem.   I won't even go into interior dimensions the tahoe and escalade are identical except for cargo capacity. The g35 and Max do not have any interior dimensions that are the same.   I think your paying to much attention to GM's marketing department that wants you to believe they are different when actuality a Escalade is a Tahoe with a few different parts and more content.
#15 of 764 by dieselone Aug 18, 2003 (9:05 am)
carpeople,   your pics prove my point nicely...
#16 of 764 theneban....carpeople remember it is a message board... this is my opinion by wsag26 Aug 18, 2003 (3:02 pm)
First #1  I have my opinions and I will keep them. Nobody is going to change my mind. I don't like how they do platforms. The Escalade doesn't look at all like the Suburban to me, at least. if you think it does, maybe it does to you. Nobody is going to change my mind.   Second #2 What does it matter if it has RWD and the Maxima has FWD????? Obviously one has RWD and the other one has FWD... but they can still be on the same platform. I will agree that the Escalade shares the same dashboard as the Suburban but no way agree that there styling is the same.   Final and Last #3 I will not bring this topic back up.... especially because this specific board is about the 2004 qx56.. not arguing about the resemblence of the G35/Maxima. I had my point and I will not change it....
#17 of 764 Can the Japanese convince rap stars that there full size luxury SUV's are.. by wsag26 Aug 18, 2003 (3:04 pm)
Can the Japanese convince the rap stars that there brand new full size luxury SUV's are that popular enough to be featured in the music industry's videos? That is how the Escalade started out getting people to buy them. There sales are okay at this time. Finally, a way to get many elderly out of there crowd.   What are your opinions? Please don't fight with me...
#18 of 764 by carpeople Aug 18, 2003 (6:55 pm)
"What does it matter if it has RWD and the Maxima has FWD????? Obviously one has RWD and the other one has FWD... but they can still be on the same platform"   But the FACT is that they don't share platfroms, G35 is on the FM RWD platform, the Maxima is on the FF-L platform. Since you had the last post about their resemblence and completely ignored the pics I posted up of the Expedition/Navi, Yukon/Escalade, I will post pics of Maxima and G35.   Max:   G35 sedan:   Now, to keep on topic, Yukon vs Escalade
#19 of 764 wsag by thenebean9 Aug 19, 2003 (4:26 am)
you can have your opinion, but you have to realize that WE wont agree with you based on the FACTS, which have been stated nicely above by various other posters.   opinions are just that, opinions. you may say the g35 and the max are almost alike, (based on maybe the headlights? i dont see anything else remotely in common) but the FACTS prove you wrong. you have the option of keeping your opinion as is (which then makes you ignorant to the truth) or you may change it based on the facts presented to you. it doesnt make you less of a person to change your opinion, ive done it many times.   so while we have presented evidence proving that the max and the g35 are not identical, you have yet to prove your opinion on the escalade not being the same as any other GM product like the tahoe or the yukon. you just state your opinion that they look different.   well, its hard to take someone seriously when they cant provide some truth behind their argument.   its also funny that you call nissan/infiniti the GM of all japanese vehicles, yet you have this passion for cadillac. if nissan/infinit sucks, and therefore are the GM of japanese vehicles, wouldnt it hold true then that you think actual GM vehicles suck? therefore making your beloved escalade suck?   large suv's are not only about rap stars, families dont DRIVE them only because they see 50 cent driving one in his videos...   i think the qx56 will bring a rugged suv with luxurious interior to the market along with japanese quality that the american carmakers dont seem to have a grasp on yet. this is MY opinion.   happy motoring!   -thene

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