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Re: mr. badinfinity... [eagle34] by akboss
Feb 13, 2008 (12:41 pm)
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Replying to: eagle34 (Feb 12, 2008 3:43 pm)

I'd like to point out something about this comment in specific by eagle34:
 
"Where are GM hybrid owners going to be in 3 or 4 years when those batteries and electronics crap out and need replacing."
 
I am personally in great support of the next stage of automotive development, for many reasons. In the interim period between the QX56 (which needs all of its towing ability to bring along an oil refinery) and 'emissions-free green energy', we have hybrids. While the technology isn't perfect, it is better than what we have. Speaking of 'old technology' in bashing the GM SUV's, consider that ALL vehicles not using a hybrid system are building on a motor that has been relatively unchanged since the late 1800's. Hybrid batteries are getting better, Toyota has had no significant battery system replacements in its Prius sedan, released to Japan in 1997. That's 10 years ago and its still purring! No moving parts? How is that unreliable! I'll send a post card when you're at the mechanics or the gas station.
 
I would be interested to hear what some others think about hybrid technology, in support or otherwise...would you buy a hybrid QX if it existed?
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Re: mr. badinfinity... [akboss] by keg97
Feb 13, 2008 (3:00 pm)
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Replying to: akboss (Feb 13, 2008 12:41 pm)

We would strongly consider purchasing a hybrid QX. I would obviously do the math and see what kind of premium we're paying for the hybrid and try to figure out how long it would take to earn back that premium. Likely we'd pay a little extra premium to make the statement of going hybrid, but not much over a grand or 1500.
 
Also, I would NEVER buy a hybrid QX if they put all those nasty decals over the vehicle that GM is doing. I hate to bash GM, but even when they do something admirable, they whore it up to the point where it looks just like a two dollar prostitute. Very disappointing....
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Re: mr. badinfinity... [akboss] by eagle34
Feb 13, 2008 (3:21 pm)
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Replying to: akboss (Feb 13, 2008 12:41 pm)

I know I have bashed the GM products but actually have driven GM trucks from 85 to 07. Great trucks besides a couple of trannys and alternators. I usually get 100000 miles out them and trade up. I buy vehicles for specific purposes. I would never tow with an suv because I've always had trucks so my suv uses have always been travel and comfort. Wouldn't care if QX tow capacity was 500lb. I personally would not buy a large hybrid vehicle from GM. I would buy a small Toyota or Honda hybrid because I feel they have more development and real world time in this department. Why buy a Tahoe hybrid to get 20mpg when a 4runner or mdx will get you 19 or 20mpg without the added expense or growing pains of new technology. I still remember the old GM converted 6.2 conventional to diesel engine woes and the earlier cadillac V-8-6-4 deativated engines and have to think maybe this too is a band aid approach to better fuel economy with their hybrids. I do feel the automotive world is on the brink of some great strides in alternative energy sources but don't think GM will be the leader.
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ha ha ha by akboss
Feb 14, 2008 (12:15 pm)
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loved the posting about the hybrid badging and totally agree. Enormous stickers and logos all over the truck are awful, and GM is the worst for this...the only thing telling you a Toyota is a hybrid is their little 'synergy drive' icon.
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Re: ha ha ha [akboss] by keg97
Feb 14, 2008 (2:32 pm)
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Replying to: akboss (Feb 14, 2008 12:15 pm)

Apparently the decals on the Escalade Hybrid are optional...mildly ironic to me since that is very much a "in your face" vehicle. Don't get me wrong...I love the styling of the Escalade. We seriously considered it but the lack of fold flat 3rd row was a fatal flaw. I'd have probably gotten 20's instead of 22's to tone it down some but we loved the exterior style.
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Re: mr. badinfinity... [brad701] by linkybo
Feb 15, 2008 (5:10 pm)
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Replying to: brad701 (Feb 12, 2008 12:16 pm)

I went from a BMW X5 to a QX and agile is not a word I would ever use to describe the QX. Of course, the QX is bigger, but just because it doesn't actually roll over when you turn a corner does not make it agile.
I managed to keep that QX for 40k miles - until the warranty was nearly out. I knew I had to dump it at that point. The brakes and rotors had been replaced too many times to count, the back up camera went from being all static to a line of static through the middle, when I put it in reverse, the back window on the hatch popped open, the relays for the power windows kept needing replaced (which meant they sometimes broke with the window in the open position and would not close), when locking the vehicle from the key fob, the right passenger door wouldn't lock, it made scraping sounds when the a/c was on, there were rattles and creaks, the rear sonar beeped continuously when I put the truck in reverse, the sunroof came off track and wouldn't close, the navigation system needed replaced, and the rear hatch wouldn't open from the key fob. My Infinity dealer fixed all of these problems, sometimes more than once, and gave me a loaner car each time. Unfortunately, I have 4 children and they don't have a loaner QX, so my kids couldn't fit in the car they loaned me.
I finally got tired of going to the dealer each month so I traded it in on an Escalade ESV. The Cadillac dealer didn't want the QX - they knew about all the problems. I got very little for my trade in but I was happy to leave that QX behind. I didn't even consider looking at the new QX but I can tell you I've had the Escalade for 7 months and all I've done is get the oil changed.
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Re: mr. badinfinity... [linkybo] by badinfinity
Feb 15, 2008 (5:53 pm)
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Replying to: linkybo (Feb 15, 2008 5:10 pm)

Sounds like I wrote your review. I too had so many problems with my QX (which stands for "Quality NOT"!! My QX spent more time the dealership than it did in my driveway.
 
I also tried to trade in my QX the Lexus dealership on a LX470, but they had heard about the brake recalls and would not take it. I took a beatin and traded it on an 07 Escalade and have been happy ever since. The Escalade has never been to the dealership, only Walmart for routine oil changes! The Cadillac dealer who took my QX in trade had it sitting on their lot for 6 months and finally sold it an auction.
 
I keep forgeting that Infinity is just another word for Nissan, which has a long history of quality control problems. Since the early 1970's you could never compare a Nissan with a Toyota.
 
Engineering wise the QX is nothing more than a Nissan Titan with a topper on the back. This is the reason why your rotors kept failing. They did not compensate for the increased weight of the additional metal. Duh?
 
It will be interesting to see what Nissan replaces this outdated vehicle with.
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Re: mr. badinfinity... [badinfinity] by keg97
Feb 15, 2008 (6:13 pm)
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Replying to: badinfinity (Feb 15, 2008 5:53 pm)

Sorry that both of you had problems with the QX. As mentioned numerous times, the 04/05 had issues. That issues sure appear to be a thing of the past. I'm not sure that I agree with you that "Nissan has a long history of quality control problems". Consumer Reports does not agree. I don't agree....I've had two Nissans that have both gone well past 100K with just normal maintenance. You probably also think that Toyota and Honda are "bulletproof" despite clear evidence otherwise that not all of their models are driven down the mountain by Moses.
 
At least the Escalade is built on it's own platform and not the Silverado/Tahoe's right? Exactly....economies of scale. All of these "luxury" vehicles are built upon their cheaper cousins.
Tahoe<Denali<Escalade Land Cruiser<LX570 Armada<QX56 Expedition<Navigator

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