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Re: 2008 QX45 Transmission Temperature Gauge [brad701]
by badinfinity
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Feb 11, 2008 (3:09 pm)
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Replying to: brad701 (Aug 25, 2007 8:17 am)
You sound like you have never owned either one. So what you say is heresay. Escalades cost a lot more than QX's. They have more power, handle better and are a lot more quiet. So why don't you go buy one, and then let us know how the like the QX. Pick up a boat anchor for an emergency brake.
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Re: 2008 QX45 Transmission Temperature Gauge [badinfinity]
by brad701
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Feb 11, 2008 (4:41 pm)
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Replying to: badinfinity (Feb 11, 2008 3:09 pm)
Badinfinity, we all thought you were long gone. Everyone here knows that you will say anything here to trash the QX56, and that is your sole agenda here. The rumor was that the brakes failed on your Escalade and you went off a cliff The FACTS that I related from other owners I spoke to and know were not hearsay. Is that your latest tactic, to claim that anytime anyone has a good experience with a QX56 it's hearsay? I was in the market for a full size SUV, and I was relating the responses (both good and not so good) on the answers that I received when I asked people about their trucks. Granted my sample size was small, but if you read what I was told by other QX56 owners as well as take the time to read all the posts here you realize that most owners are reasonably happy with their QX's, although I will grant you they are not bulletproof...I don't think anyone ever claimed they were. But when I started asking Escalade owners about the experiences, they were uniformly negative. I'm not saying there are not happy Escalade owners (no doubt there are), but with the first hand experience I saw, there's no way I would take the risk of buying one. I've now had my '08 QX56 for 5 months/ 8k miles, and I've never even been back to the dealer once...no problems whatsoever. I will grant you that the Escalade costs more and is quieter, but how can you claim that it handles better? Have you not read any professional reviews one each truck? The other person asked why would anyone buy one, and suggested the Suburban as an alternative. In my case, based on past experiences with GM products (and moreso, the attitude of GM employees who try to run away and hide when they can't repair a vehicle) it's very unlikely I would buy another GM product. And when I started asking owners about their experiences with the Escalade, the writing was on the wall. And I think the tow ratings are some indication of just how sturdy the respective trucks are. Other than a 3/4 ton Suburban, no other GM SUV appeared to be up to my needs for heavy duty towing.
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Re: 2008 QX45 Transmission Temperature Gauge [brad701]
by eagle34
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Feb 11, 2008 (7:45 pm)
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Replying to: brad701 (Feb 11, 2008 4:41 pm)
Did I miss something or are you all comparing an Escalade to the QX. GM big iron,
TahoeSuburbanYukonEscalade is old technology and doesn't even belong in the same neighborhood as the QX. Face it, Japanese autos are taking the big three to the cleaners right now and it's going to get worse. My QX is currently getting 15 mpg. No way a GM suv is getting any better than this. As far as cabin noise goes read the Caddy wind noise forums. I have owned many large GM vehicles in the past. They do not compare. Sloppy handling, terrible trannys, sickening trade value, poor service. I have two business associates with QXs that have been problem free as well. This is a great suv. Get over it. You are one of the few.
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mr. badinfinity...
by akboss
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Feb 12, 2008 (11:44 am)
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I think Mr.Badinifinty and I have something in common for our dislike of this vehicle, but let me pursue this a little further so as not to just be ignorant in my position. If you have a lot of money, you want to haul something heavy, and you want to do it in luxury, this vehicle is one of very few that can achieve this. Up until now, the "big iron" from GM was the big gun in this area, and for this writer is still the best (where's the QX56 hybrid! ha ha). Please, if you haven't ridden in a loaded '08 Suburban LT, don't say its not luxurious. But seriously, writers are boasting about 15mpg and 'good handling', this hurts my brain. Back to the part where you can get a Chev Suburban and still have enough left over for an Audi - you can haul all you want in this tried-and-true Chevy (my father-in-law's work 'burban, an '05, has done 155K miles in 2 yrs with only alternator replaced on warranty). Then if you want to understand what handling is, try on your new Audi. Honestly, no offense to QX56 owners...just think before you renew your next mortgage..I mean, lease, on a new Q. Oh, and I don't work for Chevy. I'm actually a Ford man! But lets not go there...
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Re: 2008 QX45 Transmission Temperature Gauge [eagle34]
by brad701
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Feb 12, 2008 (12:01 pm)
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Replying to: eagle34 (Feb 11, 2008 7:45 pm)
Eagle, in an attempt to not be as one sided as our friend Badinfinity, I must ask you what you mean by "old technology", and also what's neccesarily wrong with old technology? You do have to give GM some credit...their build quality has improved markedly over the last 5 years. Have you actually driven one of their new SUV's. The driving experience really has noticably improved, although the QX is still the better handling vehicle. And although I'm very happy with my QX, I can't say the build quality matches the Hondas and Toyotas I've owned in the past...just trying to be fair and present both sides.
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Re: mr. badinfinity... [akboss]
by brad701
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Feb 12, 2008 (12:16 pm)
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Replying to: akboss (Feb 12, 2008 11:44 am)
Akboss, have you driven a QX? It's certainly not a sports car, but it's amazingly agile for something it's size. I've let about 10 friends drive mine, and they've all made the same comment. You mentioned you are a Ford man...there is a lot to like about the new Expeditions (sorry, I think the new Navigator is butt ugly, but that's subjective and my wife disagrees), and the handling is on a par with the QX...but when I drove it back to back with the QX, the QX has noticeably more low end torque, which is right where you need it in this type of vehicle. Actually when you compare the negotiated price of a QX to other luxury SUV's, it's reasonably priced. If you want to compare a Suburban, the more comparable vehicle is the Armada. Sure, the interior of a loaded Suburban is nice, but the interiors of the QX, Navigator, Denali, and Escalade are much more luxurious.
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Re: mr. badinfinity... [akboss]
by keg97
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Feb 12, 2008 (3:31 pm)
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Replying to: akboss (Feb 12, 2008 11:44 am)
You're not really comparing the handling of jumbo SUVs to an Audi (what model?)?
Talk about apples and watermelons....
I'll also dispute that the Suburban even rivals the luxury in the QX. Have you sat in the '08 QX? My wife and I looked at practically everything in the class from Tahoe to Mercedes GL. While the Tahoe is very nice and a big improvement over the crap that GM put out before, there is no comparison to the QX. We even thought that the QX had more luxury toys than the Escalade. The Escalade has a beautiful exterior design, but lacked many of the toys that the QX has (HDD Nav, Bluetooth, keyless start, HDD stereo system, etc.). The Caddy does have cooled seats, but otherwise I can't think of one thing that the Caddy has but not the QX.
The Caddy is noticeably louder than the QX. Personally, I loved the throaty exhaust of the Caddy, but it would likely get tiresome over the long haul. Additionally, we looked at several Escalades at different dealers and most had fit/finish issues that we did not notice on the multiple QX's that we looked at. Finally, the Escalade/Tahoe/Denali/Suburban still have the live rear axle and no fold flat 3rd row. Talk about old technology!
We really wanted to like the Escalade, but the QX easily won out, not even considering the price difference. Other folks may have different priorities than us, but the finalist v. the QX was actually the brand new Sequoia.
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Re: mr. badinfinity... [brad701]
by keg97
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Feb 12, 2008 (3:34 pm)
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Replying to: brad701 (Feb 12, 2008 12:16 pm)
I agree with you completely on the Navigator....not attractive. The interior reminds me of an old Ford LTD....not exactly what I think of when I think of luxury. I did not even bother to take my wife to see the Navigator since it was so unattrative.
Finally....why do you let so many people drive your QX?
Mine is only for my wife and I!!!!
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Re: mr. badinfinity... [akboss]
by eagle34
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Feb 12, 2008 (3:43 pm)
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Replying to: akboss (Feb 12, 2008 11:44 am)
Where are GM hybrid owners going to be in 3 or 4 years when those batteries and electronics crap out and need replacing. Good luck with that. I seriously doubt that one of their hybrids would do too much better than the 15 mpg I get in real world conditions anyway. The Suburban is not a bad vehicle and I'm sure they have improved it greatly over the 99 I had. I drove a Denali before buying the QX and it was not even close. The interior is nice but it stops there. Old technology is that nav system and that live rear axle that prevents the fold away rear seats. Please understand I don't haul or use the Q for anything utilitarian. It is my wife's car used only for travel or out to dinner or to kid's ball games. I use my Tundra for hauling and my E55 for fun. No offense but I don't have a mortgage and have never had use for a Ford.
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Re: 2008 QX45 Transmission Temperature Gauge [eagle34]
by badinfinity
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Feb 12, 2008 (4:47 pm)
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Replying to: eagle34 (Feb 11, 2008 7:45 pm)
Even though the Qx has 100 hp less than the Escalade, rattles and vibrates like a 40 yr. old VW and has a cheezy interior, the WORST feature is it's inability to stop. After 4 sets of warped rotors in 20,000 miles, and ABS FAILURE and VEHICLE SKID CONTROL that took control of the vehicle for no reason at all, Infinity offered to buy it back. You obviously haven't driven a new Escalade (probably don't want to pay the extra $15k), but there is no comparison. Look at the Edmonds reports and consumer reports on this piece of crap. Then check the book value on a 12 month old QX. Glad you like it. Hope the brakes are there when you need them.
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