Last post on Oct 23, 2006 at 2:24 AM
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Nissan Quest, Electrical, Engine, Van
#1919 of 2128 Re: 04 Quest Break Pads [carzzz]
May 03, 2006 (5:18 pm)
Hi carzz,I think if you can get the dealer to replace the rotors on warranty thats great but be advised that if the dealer doesn't install the new rotors correctly the new rotors may feel like they warped again due to lateral runout. The rotors don't actually warp but they develop high spots that leads to brake pedal judder. This vibration can develop as soon as 2000 miles. The CRUX of the problem is your hubs on front of your Quest were installed slightly off vertical so when the factory installed your rotors they don't ride perfectly vertical and the brake calipers allow the brake pads to ride slightly off hence it feels like your rotors warped at 2000 miles. Think about it, how the heck can you warp a rotor at 2000 miles on a new vehicle? The perfect fix would be to install the new rotors and then use a hub mounted rotor lathe. If your dealer did this, GREAT. If not expect judder to resurface shortly. This is a common problem with all of todays new vehicles, not just Nissan or the Quest. The only solution would be to machine all rotors on all new vehicles at the factory. It's much cheaper for car makers to do this after the fact just to the problem vehicles. Also the brake pads are fine on these vehicles. Drive gently, front pads, 30 to 40K, rears should be 10K more. Drive it hard, front pads. 20K to 30K. The fact is the rotors should never never feel as though they warped. Read this and think about it, I bet you a Windstar IM right. Hope this helps.
#1920 of 2128 Re: 04 Quest Break Pads [spoonieboy1]
May 03, 2006 (7:32 pm)
Thanks for all the inputs! Now i hope the dealer did install the new set of rotors correctly.
"how the heck can you warp a rotor at 2000 miles on a new vehicle?"
This is what i was wondering about too. Because the rotors were not installed properly at the Mississippi Plant, they got overheated due to the "high spot". I found it's very irritating that the dealer said my driving habit caused this problem (2000 miles). My other cars were on original rotors at 70k+ and 80k+ miles. But oh well, they give me a new set!
I will keep my eyes on both the petal and steering! i will keep updating...
#1921 of 2128 Re: 04 Quest Break Pads [spoonieboy1]
May 05, 2006 (11:08 am)
Some one needs to explain to me how a piece of metal approx. an inch thick can develop a "high" spot without warping? why wouldn't you notice the shudder immediately instead of after 2000 miles if in fact the hubs are "slightly off vertical"?
#1922 of 2128 Re: 04 Quest Break Pads [dtownfb]
May 05, 2006 (11:32 am)
I did not even do the testing until 2k miles! Who would put the hands off while braking? i would not... however, i did that because many people claim there is problem on the brake and i felt more familiar with the car when it was about 2k miles. The Steering vibration was very minimal and the movement was about 1 to 2mm or so
#1923 of 2128 2004 Quest se heater controls
May 05, 2006 (1:50 pm)
I set the heater to bi-level, shut off the engine, then restart it, the heater automatically goes to floor position. I have to set it to bi-level every time I get in the van and start it up. Sometimes the heater sets itself to come out of the dash only on start up. It's like the memory function isn't working. Any other heater adjustments I make remain as I left them. Can some one tell me if this is normal?
#1924 of 2128 Re: 2004 Quest se heater controls [kaykatz]
May 05, 2006 (3:37 pm)
I don’t remember, but does it go off of “Auto” mode when you switch the air flow direction?
I know that when my wife adjusts the fan speed it goes off of the “Auto” mode…and will stay that way when the van is re-started (annoying…air in my face).
It sounds like in your situation the Auto mode is still on…and puts the heat to the floor where it should go…I think you need to turn off the Auto mode to have it “save” your setting.
I just leave it on Auto mode all the time…unless I open all the windows/sunroof.
#1925 of 2128 Re: 04 Quest Break Pads [dtownfb]
May 05, 2006 (5:05 pm)
If you want the straight scoop on Quest brake problems go to brakeinfo.com click on common brake problems click on lateral runout. All you folks will see that your brake problems are not warped rotors as thought but lateral runout. This site explains the problem PERFECTLY. Again, how the heck could you warp a rotor on a new vehicle at 2000 miles? It's now warped, it,s lateral runout. Check it out.
#1926 of 2128 Re: "Service Engine Soon" warning [chuck0731]
May 05, 2006 (6:57 pm)
FYI took my Quest to the dealer today and they told me the SES was on because the fuel injector wasn't working as well as it should. Of course they had to order it, so I'll have to take it back in to the dealer one more time. That trip will make it official; over the two years we've leased this van I've made more trips to the dealer for warranty-covered issues than I have with my last 5 cars (over 20 years) combined.
In general I love the Quest, and the service dept. has been more than fair, but this whole experience has really soured me on Nissan in general.
#1927 of 2128 Re: 2004 Quest se heater controls [ivan_99]
May 06, 2006 (1:11 pm)
I've tried all modes. I have turned off the Auto setting, but the same thing happens. Nissan is not being very helpfull in giving me direct answers.
#1928 of 2128 Re: 04 Quest Break Pads [spoonieboy1]
May 07, 2006 (12:14 pm)
The site explains instructions for checking lateral runout and on car lathing if needed for a brand new rotor. A brand new rotor can indeed warp in 2000 miles if manufactured using a process that could lead to instability of the original staightness. Lateral runout in and of itself does not develop and get worse from new, it is a function of the deformation (warping) of the metal.