Last post on Oct 23, 2006 at 1:24 AM
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Nissan Quest, Electrical, Engine, Van
#1898 of 2128 Re: Brakes Update and Other Stuff... [bperk]
Apr 25, 2006 (3:38 pm)
Hi Folks, I have a 2005 Quest. Rotors felt like they warped 3000 miles. I say felt like because the symptoms were almost the same as warped rotors but not quite. I thought how could Nissan put such cheap crap on these vehicles. But then how could Nissan even design a rotor that warped even if they wanted it to warp 3000 miles. I did some research on this problem. I don't think its the rotors, its the installation of the rotors thats at fault. Lateral Runout. See my post #1427 and #1435 in this discussion. The rotors must be machined on the vehicle using a PRO CUT hub mounted rotor lathe. Not all dealers have this lathe. Go to the PRO CUT web site, look under AWARDS, Its the only fix Nissan and many other car makers will pay for on warranty service. If your dealer doesn't have this lathe you will bring the vehicle back in agaun and again. I hope this helps, check it out.
#1899 of 2128 Re: Brakes Update and Other Stuff... [spoonieboy1]
Apr 25, 2006 (7:17 pm)
did the "cut" fix the problem or make it warpped again earlier?
#1900 of 2128 Re: Brakes Update and Other Stuff... [carzzz]
Apr 26, 2006 (4:13 am)
Yes, the brakes have been fine for 10000 miles. I asked my dealer, Mories Nissan of Brooklyn Park, MN if they had the PRO CUT lathe. They said yes, it's all they use.It's a hub mounted lathe, much more accurate than caliper mounted. You MUST make sure this lathe is used on your Quest for the problems to be resolved. Note, I work as a parts guy for heavy equipment and have no $ interest in PRO CUT. As for $700.00 on frozenrotors, I think thats expensive overkill and they may feel like they warped if not installed correctly. You can get top of the line Napa rotors and pads for half the price of frozenrotors. The Quest is a minivan after all not a street racer or drifter. My last vehicle was a Windstar that I fried the rotors on several times coming down the Rocky Mountains. Smoked the rotors! They never warped. After they cooled down they were fine. They were midgrade Napa rotors, $55.00 per rotor.The problem lies in the installation of the rotors, it's a hit or miss issue, everthing has to line up perfectly or you will develop lateral runout.
#1901 of 2128 Re: Brakes Update and Other Stuff... [spoonieboy1]
Apr 26, 2006 (7:21 pm)
Thanks for the info, spoonieboy1, this gives us one more option to look at. While ProCut surely gives a superior lathing job, I'd be inclined to question design & fabrication of the rotor & hub if ProCut was the only option to true-ing up rotors. If the rotors were fine at the point of new and warped out on you in a few thousand miles, I'd be watching very close for the warpage to return no matter what method turning is used. From personal experience with other cars, I've never been a fan of turning rotors. At pad replacement time, if the pedal's not hopping, a set of new pads and no rotor turning is fine. If the pedal's hopping, then it's new rotors. At any rate, thanks again for the info and keep us posted on your turned rotor performance. By the way- Nice to hear from another Twin Citian. I bought our 04 Quest used from Feldman Imports in Bloomington, and have gotten warranty work done at Kline Nissan in Maplewood. So far, very happy with them.
#1902 of 2128 Re: Brakes Update and Other Stuff... [spoonieboy1]
Apr 27, 2006 (6:52 pm)
here is the update...
Dealers: "Front rotors out of round disassemle and inspect brakes. Brakes slightly blue due to hard braking or riding brakes req's machining"
they said the resurfacing is not covered under warantee in my case... what a shame...
Also, just wondering how much you can turn on the steering wheel on the Quest? I could turn over 540 degree(more than 1.5 circle) to left from center position and but i could only turn exactly 540 degree to the right from center position(exactly 1.5 circle)...is this normal?
#1903 of 2128 "Service Engine Soon" warning
Apr 27, 2006 (7:23 pm)
Has anyone experienced the "Service Engine Soon" (AKA the malfunction indicator lamp or MIL) light up? My 2004 Quest has had the MIL warning on steadily since last night, but the owner's manual seems to minimize it. According to my manual a steady MIL means most likely the fuel cap is loose (a "Service Engine Soon" warning seems a bit extreme for such a minor event), but after tightening the cap I'm still getting the warning. Given that I've beaten a steady path to my service department over the almost two years I've had my Quest, I'm in no hurry to go there again, but how long should I wait (if I can wait at all) before taking it into the dealer if the MIL continues to stay lit? BTW, I haven't experienced the poor drivability or reduced fuel economy the manual warns about.
#1904 of 2128 Re: "Service Engine Soon" warning [chuck0731]
Apr 28, 2006 (8:06 am)
To ease your mind, go to an auto parts store that reads codes, like Advance Auto parts. They can hook up the OBD II readeer to the van and read the codes and print it out for you. Post the code on here. Someone may be able to help you diagnose the problem.
I had the "Service Engine Soon" light come on and the code was P0745 (Pressure control Solenoid). It turns out I had a loose wire. NO big deal.
#1905 of 2128 Re: "Service Engine Soon" warning [chuck0731]
Apr 28, 2006 (8:24 am)
Just to let you know that I experienced similar "problem" some time ago. Since nothing seemed to be wrong with the van except the SES light being on, I didn't take it to the dealer. For about 2 weeks I just tried to tighten the gas cap when I filled up. The light didn't go out after the first few attempts but finally did (perhaps 3-4 times of opening and retightening the cap). If nothing else seems to be wrong with your van, don't worry about SES light. Just fiddle with your gas cap when you fill up, perhaps to help it fit in better with the grooves, and the light should evntually go out.
#1906 of 2128 04 Quest Break Pads
Apr 29, 2006 (9:18 am)
I have a 2004 Nissan Quest with 29,000 miles on it. After the first few months of having it the breaks vibrated so I took it in and they turned the rotors. Now at 29,000 they have been vibrating again so I took it in and they said they not only needed to turn the rotors but replace the break pads!
This is my first Nissan product but in all new vehicles that I've owned of other brands I've never once ever had to replace break pads before 50,000 and for that matter it's usually been much more than that. I live in a flat area, not mountains and I'm easy on the breaks.
According to warranty documentation break rotors and pads are not convered under warranty except for the first 12,000 miles unless it is a defect.
I would think needing break pads at 29.000 miles would be a defect? I'm told from the dealer this is normal for factory pads to last only 20 - 40 thousand miles?
Is this true for Nissan, break pads do not last as long as in other vehicles? What have been your experiences in this matter?
I'm thinking it is a defect in the system and this should be covered under warranty. I had to pay $350 to get the rotors turned and new pads which I'm going to ask Nissan to re-pay me under the terms of their warranty that it is a defect.
... Gary Cox - garycoxnetten.net
#1907 of 2128 Re: 04 Quest Break Pads [garycox]
Apr 29, 2006 (11:10 am)
Gary, I'm gathering from this forum that brakes are an issue with this new generation of Quest. It's all a function of design and part specification. It's sounding like Nissan's rotor supplier is a bad one, and the pads just plain wear out too soon. Once you've run your course with warranties, if you like the van well enough to keep I'd look into aftermarket rotors and pads. One guy on the forum suggests frozenrotors.com, another suggests Napa, still another suggests having a dealer with ProLine brake lathe turn your rotors.