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2128 messages, Last post on Oct 23, 2006 at 1:24 AM
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Replying to: dtownfb (Apr 03, 2005 8:25 pm) please if you re-read post 1128, I believe you will also conclude that the poster's car behavior does not support what you expect, and perhaps what your car does.
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Replying to: user777 (Apr 04, 2005 8:17 am) Normal situation = airbag on = NO warning light. Abnormal situation = airbag OFF = YES warning light. The airbag is off when the seat is registering as below weight or empty.
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Replying to: gg2k2se (Apr 04, 2005 12:33 pm) a light on the dash at night to alert you to a "normal" condition like the seat being empty is not intuitive. sure i'd learn to pay no attention to it also, but that is indicative of a bad alert system design (my opinion). alerting systems are suppose to draw your attention to an anomoly (like the gas tank empty, the high-beams left on, the seatbelt not buckled, a door ajar...)
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Replying to: user777 (Apr 04, 2005 1:32 pm) I think it all depends what we expect. The airbags are suppose to act automatcially without driver input or action. We are now condiditoned as drivers and passengers that the airbags are there when we need them. The light lets you know that the bags are inactive. Not the normal situation we are conditioned to expect. In other words an anomoly. Also what if for some reason you need your child to sit inthe front seat (i.e. need to haul something and both 2nd and 3rd row are folded), you now see all the time that the bag is inactive. If it were to flash and then go off, you might not see the flashing or forget it is inactive. Plus I am sure Nissan planned it this way to cover themselves in case of lawauit. The more i think about it we are on the same wavelength (scary).
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Replying to: dtownfb (Apr 06, 2005 1:24 pm) it also happens when I toss some stuff like my laptop bag on the seat. it is off when my wife is in the seat  or i'm in the seat or there is no one in the seat. now then - how'd you like a light on in a vehicle for every seating position if it had an airbag, and the airbag was disabled at that position because no one was in the seat? alerting systems are designed to draw your attention to the discrepant. the no one is in the seat condition isn't discrepant, its a normal situation. the abnormal situation is someone does not weigh enough to warrent the system enabling the bag. any sienna owner reading the forum that can tell us how your van treats this case?
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Prior to the passenger seat recall the air bag icon never came on. I suppose that was at least part of the reason for the recall. After the recall, the "air bag off" light remains on when no one is seated there as it appears is the way it is supposed to function. However, when my wife (122 lb.) is seated in the front passenger seat, the light is also frequently on. We returned to the dealer who made some adjustment, but the light still comes on when my wife is seated there, just not as frequently. By deliberately pressing down on the seat the light will go out only later to come on again. My understanding is that the air bag should be off only when a child weighing less than 50-55 lbs. is seated there. I would like to know if others have observed this air bag off problem for passengers weighing more than 55 lbs. I plan to ask the dealer to have the seat replaced rather than try more adjustments.
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Replying to: vonbill3 (Apr 07, 2005 7:35 am) curious, does your manual tell you how the light is supposed to function? |
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There are 2 warning lights: One for the passenger front seat and one for the rest of the bags (Supplemental warning light). In my manual ( pages 1-29 and 1-30) the function explanation for the supplemental light is clear. There is no info at all concerning operation of the passenger bag. The confusing info is that the manual states that the system needs servicing if the supplemental light remains on after 7 seconds; flashes intermittantly; does not come on at all. It's confusing because the light-on condition for the passenger bag means that all is well when no one is seated in the passenger seat. In other words, light-on has 2 interpretations in the Quest depending on which light is on. I agree with some of the postings that the light-on condition should be a warning and not that all is well. At a minimum this should be discussed in the manual. As I stated, in my previous posting we will push to get the seat replaced. For just this one problem we have made 5 trips to the dealer. |
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It's taken 1-1/2 years but Nissan finally got around to providing a fix for the poor windshield washers some of us had to contend with on our 2004 models. Check out the Quest TSB 04141 at the Nissan help site. The TSB provides specific instructions to measure washer performance. Depending on results, a set of shims are available to improve performance. The shims are in 3 sizes depending on how bad or good the washers perform. If needed, the dealer will do the modification at no cost. I had the work done and the washers are now almost acceptable. The fix includes a modification to the nozzle which making them spring loaded so I can tweek the mounting to get better performance. |
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Replying to: user777 (Apr 06, 2005 1:42 pm) I hope the sarcasm was heavy enough for you. Seriously, I've always learned, there are more than one way to skin a cat. There is no absolute right way to do something. And as long as the message is understood, then you said it right way. My point is the light clearly says "Passenger Airbag Off". The driver and anyone else who sees it knows what it means. it means the passenger air bag is off. Why does it come on when no one is in the seat? I have no clue. I don't really care. Maybe the sensor is not that advanced and it is simply an on/off button. The light is not that annoying and it gets its message across loud and clear. Also the normal situation is not no one in the seat. The normal situation is Air bags activated. The air bags are designed to work automatically or they could not call them safety features. The fact that there is someone or somethign under 75 pounds in the passenger seat shuts off the airbag. So the light is telling you that one of your air bags in inactivated. Again an abnormal situation. This is the way Nissan chose to alert the driver. How about a light that shows that your ABS is not working or inactive? Wait they do have a light. How about a light that shows your traction control is inactive? Wait they have one of those too. How about a light to show when your seatbelt is not fastened? No way, they have one of those too. Surely, they don't have a light that comes on when my tires are low? Wow, they do. Imagine that, all these lights come on when the SAFETY DEVICES detects something out of the norm. Nissan really screwed this up by having a little light to tell me the passenger airbag is off when no one is sitting in the passenger seat. Not sure why you think this is so wrong jsut because it not the way you think it should be.
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