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2128 messages, Last post on Oct 23, 2006 at 1:24 AM
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Replying to: dtownfb (Mar 31, 2005 11:31 am)  it's not how my van operates (light on when a light individual like a child or a parcel is in the seat) and you would think something like this would be standard through the industry - like other notification mechanisms (high beam on, seat belt not buckled, gas near empty, oil pressure low, etc). one would expect there to be ennunciation when the system detects a problem, not when everything is OK (like noone is in the seat). i'm sorry - but that is backwards. at night, is the light on? a light is supposed to call your attention to the discrepant, alerting you to a potential problem to get your attention. 
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Replying to: mdargan (Oct 16, 2003 8:26 am) |
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Replying to: user777 (Apr 01, 2005 7:31 pm) Not sure why you don't understand this esp. when you mentioned that the seat belts work the same way. IF you have them buckled, you see nothing. If you don't have them buckled you see a bright light. Teh way Nissan has it set up seems perfectly logical to me. Let the driver know when the safety systems are off or inactive by shining a light. Yes the light stays on at night but trust me with all the other lights on the Quest console, you barely notice that small light.
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Replying to: dtownfb (Apr 03, 2005 8:25 pm) please if you re-read post 1128, I believe you will also conclude that the poster's car behavior does not support what you expect, and perhaps what your car does.
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Replying to: user777 (Apr 04, 2005 8:17 am) Normal situation = airbag on = NO warning light. Abnormal situation = airbag OFF = YES warning light. The airbag is off when the seat is registering as below weight or empty.
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Replying to: gg2k2se (Apr 04, 2005 12:33 pm) a light on the dash at night to alert you to a "normal" condition like the seat being empty is not intuitive. sure i'd learn to pay no attention to it also, but that is indicative of a bad alert system design (my opinion). alerting systems are suppose to draw your attention to an anomoly (like the gas tank empty, the high-beams left on, the seatbelt not buckled, a door ajar...)
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Replying to: user777 (Apr 04, 2005 1:32 pm) I think it all depends what we expect. The airbags are suppose to act automatcially without driver input or action. We are now condiditoned as drivers and passengers that the airbags are there when we need them. The light lets you know that the bags are inactive. Not the normal situation we are conditioned to expect. In other words an anomoly. Also what if for some reason you need your child to sit inthe front seat (i.e. need to haul something and both 2nd and 3rd row are folded), you now see all the time that the bag is inactive. If it were to flash and then go off, you might not see the flashing or forget it is inactive. Plus I am sure Nissan planned it this way to cover themselves in case of lawauit. The more i think about it we are on the same wavelength (scary).
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Replying to: dtownfb (Apr 06, 2005 1:24 pm) it also happens when I toss some stuff like my laptop bag on the seat. it is off when my wife is in the seat  or i'm in the seat or there is no one in the seat. now then - how'd you like a light on in a vehicle for every seating position if it had an airbag, and the airbag was disabled at that position because no one was in the seat? alerting systems are designed to draw your attention to the discrepant. the no one is in the seat condition isn't discrepant, its a normal situation. the abnormal situation is someone does not weigh enough to warrent the system enabling the bag. any sienna owner reading the forum that can tell us how your van treats this case?
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Prior to the passenger seat recall the air bag icon never came on. I suppose that was at least part of the reason for the recall. After the recall, the "air bag off" light remains on when no one is seated there as it appears is the way it is supposed to function. However, when my wife (122 lb.) is seated in the front passenger seat, the light is also frequently on. We returned to the dealer who made some adjustment, but the light still comes on when my wife is seated there, just not as frequently. By deliberately pressing down on the seat the light will go out only later to come on again. My understanding is that the air bag should be off only when a child weighing less than 50-55 lbs. is seated there. I would like to know if others have observed this air bag off problem for passengers weighing more than 55 lbs. I plan to ask the dealer to have the seat replaced rather than try more adjustments.
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Replying to: vonbill3 (Apr 07, 2005 7:35 am) curious, does your manual tell you how the light is supposed to function? |
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