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When you are trying to work a deal in the SE (versus the other regions), you'll have to figure on paying an additional $800 or so, all other things equal. This is not only what others said (like toyodlr, 12/30/05), but it jived out with all the offers I looked at (and the deal I did do) ... AND it says so at KBB.com as well. Here is exactly what it says at the KBB.Com website if you "build your own" Avalon Limited. One of the options to check is: "Southeast Toyota Administration Charge. Touring, XLS & Limited. Invoice--750.00, MSRP--No charge. (Req'd in AL, FL, GA, NC & SC) (Cost Will Be Automatically Included in Dealer Invoice Model Price)" When I was working my deal numbers, all the major websites (kbb, nada, edmunds) showed the base Avalon Limited invoiced at 29,757. Southeast, northeast, whatever (unless you checked the box). What this means is that when A SOUTHEAST DEALER shows you HIS invoice price for a base Avalon Limited (the invoice THEY gets from SET) ... THAT lil' piece of paper will show ... $29,757 + $750 = $30,507. That is $750 that is in the deal (somewhere) that they can't "give up" ... because SET is going to take it away from them, so to speak. btw, the destination charge is $55 higher in SE (I just doublechecked vs. NYC, but I believe I recall it being the same for all regions, $635 in the SE, $580 all other regions). That's surely another SET slice o' the pie. In the SE, the sticker calls it (not a destination/delivery fee but) a "delivery, processing and handling fee." My guess is that is because (I am pretty sure) that a law was once passed ... way back when ... requiring manufacturers to nationally standardize the delivery fee amount, that is, to not have a different delivery fee in different parts of the country. (That was because individual dealers took to the practice of tacking any number it felt like onto the RHS (right-hand-side) sticker and calling it a "destination/delivery fee.") But there's no law in America that says you can't charge a customer a $55 "processing/handling fee" if you feel like it ... So, again, when you are trying to work a deal in the SE region(versus the other regions), you'll have to figure on paying an additional $800 or so, all other things equal.  btw, the numbers I posted about my deal ... the invoice price I quoted did NOT include the $750 charge--I used the NON-SET invoice # in my dealings/calcuating. In my posted calculations the SET $750 number is included in the amount I paid ABOVE invoice. If I include the # as part of the invoice #, then it could be said that I paid "invoice plus" $676.21. If you accept my argument for "giving up" the $575 that I discussed (or even if you feel I just gave it away), what is left is "invoice plus" $101.21. |
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Replying to: mldj98 (Feb 07, 2006 6:35 pm) When things get a little fuzzy to me concerning Avalon price issues ( even small) I ask..and hope it's never taken as abrasive. Thanks
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Replying to: easttexas (Feb 08, 2006 9:07 am) It was in no way abrasive.....in fact it was a real good question....some people around the country do not know about the added fee that SET puts on its autos. I sure didn't know about it until I moved here. Like mention above in some of the other posts.....it is pure profit... Why is it that SET charges extra for there cars....yet, let's say the midwest dealers or the west coast dealers do not? The simple answer is because "they can".....bottom line as I mentioned before.....the only way not to pay it is to buy somewhere out of the SET region.....which would put you either way up north or in the midwest..... And oh by the way......there is no such thing as a stupid question as you know......knowledge is power....especially when you share it in this forum......I simply read and learn....but be careful and not take everything you read here as something that is set in stone.....if it sounds like bs then do a little research....ask questions.....the answer will be clear...eventually.... Happy Motoring! |
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2002 avalon xl, basic model with leather seats [ 1t luxury car but I believe it has just the basic accesories..pretty good for a civic/echo owner!!], tinted aftermarket, certified,23000 miles, good tires..17 inch Dealer = toyota of roswell, 18,995 original price down to 17,500...no hassle deal with excellent service... good deal or not?? Car runs like a spaceship cruicing at mach1...great car!! |
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Replying to: easttexas (Feb 07, 2006 11:21 am) The dealer also added up the approximately extra $950 that apparently Gulf States Toyota charges for regional advertising. Toyota buyers in TX have to put up with this; I dont know if ordering a vehicle with only the options you want would save the money on unwanted ripoffs; Or do the dealers find another way to get you? Final Deal at $35,500 + TTL (which in Texas is almost $2900); I would have felt better if I had the same car for $34,500; Comments welcome |
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Replying to: avaron (Feb 19, 2006 2:42 pm) Congratulations on the purchase of your new Limited and regardless of what you paid, MSPR / Invoice, or something in between, I'm sure you will love the ride. I think the thought of not getting the Avy as close to invoice as you might have hoped for will soon fade from memory. I got a call from the dealership I ordered a 06 XLS Blizzard Pearl / Graphite on 2/10 telling me it was in. Well, after seeing the sweet deals some others on this site were getting I decided to drive over and talk to them about lowering the price or I would drive off into the sunset. They just got through prepping it inside and out and all that shiney stuff on the tires and a set of dice hanging from the rear view mirror (just kidding about the dice). Anyway, long story short, they would not come down on the price. A dealership is good at this game and they know that when a buyer sees the car put together just like they want it...the dealer wins. I did drive off into the sunset but it was in the Avalon. I paid $1200. over invoice... I'll get over it. Love the car and more importantly my wife feels the same way. Perhaps more. This is a replacement for her Camry. Enjoy the ride!! P.S. The above was not to take anything away from this site or the great comments made by other members regarding ways to beat the system. You do have to keep your self discipline and patience cranked up to hit the sweet spot. Mine caved in to a visual. * a special thanks to member tstrick |
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Avalon Spec. Edition Package (Ground Effects Package & 18" BBS Alloy Wheels) Accent Stripe Carpet Mats and NAV Mat Dynamic Laser Cruise Control Remote Start Engine Southeast Toyota Distributor Plus Sunroof Wind Deflector Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) and Traction Control Voice Activated DVD Navigation System MSRP $42,124 Out the door price (including all taxes) $39,300 from Toyota West Statesville NC |
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| I feel REAL good about the deal I got. I did 3 month's of research so I walked in knowing actual dealer cost from using Edmunds and Consumer Reports info. I tried selling my 2000 F-150 Lariat myself--I waited too long and ended up getting KBB Trade-in($9500) and I was OK with that. I'm still a FIRM believer in selling your vehicle yourself--if you can--just allow yourself extra time to sell it. Our Avalon is Silver Pine Mica with saddle color interior. The Avalon to me looks much better in lighter colors--they just seem to accentuate the shape. Vehicle is loaded, Nav System, Vehicle Stability & Traction Control, Remote Start, Laser Cruise Control, XM Radio, Floor & Trunk Mats, Spoiler, Splash Guards, Pinstripes, Tinted Windows, Color Coordinated Body Side Moldings (A MUST!!) Color Coordinated Door Edge Guards, Wheel Locks and Side Window Deflectors. Total MSRP $39,775 less $3,403 Discount and $9,500 for my trade, I paid $26,872--so I was very happy. I originally was going to buy an after market Extended Vehicle Warranty. However, again after doing my homework, I discovered that with after market warranties, while less costly, you are restricted to how far they'll tow your vehicle. We live 75 miles from the nearest Toyota dealer. With the Toyota Warranty, no matter where the vehicle is, Toyota pays the towing costs to the nearest dealer. Very assuring regarding where we live and all the travel we do. The $1,650 cost and extensive coverage of the 7 Year/ 100,000 Mile Toyota Warranty was a "no brainer" for me. People will say "you get a 3 year and 36K mile new car warranty from Toyota when you buy the car. True, but, after 3 years you're on your own. Just recently I had to replace the water pump on my wife's 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited--$275--I had an extended warranty so all it cost me was the $50 deductible. So figuring you really pay $1,650 and divide that by 4 years, remembering you get 3 years with the new car warranty, it still costs only $412.50 per year--VERY CHEAP insurance in today's market. Oh yeah, and its a "0" deductible policy and you have NO out-of-pocket expenses with whatever Toyota dealer fixes your car! Not really much to most, but the dealer undercoats all new cars, gives coupons for free oil changes and a tube of touch-up paint--just a little extra customer service. I also liked the fact that there were NO hidden processing, handling or other nuisance fees. They didn't push fabric guard, paint sealant or any other of a bunch of add-ons most dealers try to sell. Quoted price was what I paid. | |
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