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Replying to: jkosuge (Apr 26, 2005 8:36 am) Good deal or not?
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Replying to: leinad (Apr 26, 2005 6:04 pm) $750 above invoice is best I can do on a Touring model, and there's been several that say they've gotten better than that. But it's the best I can find in my area. Question - considering the XLS because it has the Vehicle Stability Program, but I hate the wood trim. Or I should say I hate the light wood trim. Would the Gray come with the darker wood trim in the XLS trim? And do people feel that it's worth the extra money to get the VSP. As far as I can tell, that is the biggest thing you get that the Touring doesn't have. That and heated seats. |
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Replying to: ccrider (Apr 26, 2005 8:06 pm) The Touring was my 1st choice, but when I learned only XLS and Limiteds could have VSC, I was really upset. Reason? VSC is incredicble! I test drove BMW X3 on a closed track and was asked to try and skid out or flip the suv on its side by driving it as fast as I could through the track and sharp hairpin turns, but VSC doesn't allow that to happen by baking individual wheels and/or curtailing engine power upon detection of a skid or impending rollover. I tested a Touring and found it could not go through a turn/corner any faster than than the XLS I tested because the VSC massages the brakes/engine output to allow the XLS to drive as fast as the tires/suspension/road speed would allow, but the slightly better-handling Touring had no such protection and could not manage higher cornering speeds than the XLS without its tires breaking loose (but not as smoothly/predictably as a BMW). VSC makes a car far more safer, and furthermore, one can easily (for $1,000 to $2000) swap the Touring's springs and shocks/struts with the XLS's and make an "XLS Touring" because to the best of my knowledge, it's only the those suspension parts mentioned which differentiate the XLS and Touring suspensions (somebody please comment if they know otherwise). Be careful though, because if you do a forum search on Tourings, you'll find some of them have had problems with going straight ahead (not a pleasant problem), and the cause of such has not yet been determined or remedied. Hope I've helped. Regards, Deanie
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Replying to: ccrider (Apr 26, 2005 8:06 pm)
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Replying to: leinad (Apr 27, 2005 4:30 pm) and I do have the internet quote in print which I will show anyone...of $34,714.
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Replying to: deanie (Apr 27, 2005 9:13 am)
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Replying to: leinad (Apr 27, 2005 5:53 pm) If that is out the door you did great ...hard to believe No one is questionong you just want you to be sure of what you are getting Most quotes are a dollar amount plus dealer fees tax and tag If your price is truly 34,714 out the door that is amazing GREAT JOB Do you have to order it or do they have it in stock. Good luck to you no matter what you do |
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Replying to: ccrider (Apr 27, 2005 6:56 pm) Mine is a Phantom Gray Pearl XLS w/gray(?) interior and dark wood. Whether my interior color is gray or graphite (I forgot), I prefer the charcoal color of the Touring leather. My dark wood is more convincing than any other fake wood I've seen, moreso than the fake aluminum panels in the Touring appear to be real aluminum. I'm glad I made you think more about VSC. In a perfect world, If more people did, Toyota would have no choice but offer VSC on all Avalons that much sooner. Obviously the Touring slightly outhandles the XLS during regular and spirited but prudent driving, but VSC is unlikely to be invoked in the XLS unless you are driving at the limit of the car's performance envelope, such as in an emergency manouver, or in slippery/icy conditions, and as such, a Touring will give a slightly more enjoyable and satisfying (better handling) ride more than 99% of the time. But, in that rare instance when the VSC is truly needed, it may be the difference between getting into an accident and avoiding or decreasing the severity of one, the physical health consequenses of which are obvious. Hope I've helped. Regards, Deanie
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Replying to: deanie (Apr 27, 2005 9:10 pm)
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Replying to: ccrider (Apr 27, 2005 9:53 pm) After staring at my seats, and the leather colors shown in the Edmunds Avalon profile, I believe I have have the Graphite leather (darker), as the light gray appears almost white, though my leather isn't quite as dark as is the graphite sample in the profile (on-screen colors never seem to match reality). The darker wood looks like cherry-stained bird's eye maple or burled wood, but is fairly convincing, and that's coming from a fussy antique collector. I have a three yr old and a six week newbie, so a darker color (relatively) was neccessary. The Ivory interior easily shows scuff marks from shoes, etc. The acceleration of the Touring and XLS are obviously identical (same engine/tranny/wheels/tires), so I assume you're asking whether or not the XLS ride is sluggish. Hard to quantify, but there's a little more XLS body lean in turns than Touring, and marginally more front nose dive during braking. In sum, the XLS is a little softer (and more comfortable) than Touring, but not by much. The difference is small enough (for me) that,despite my preference for a firmer suspension, they're close enough so that I can wait a few years to get some use out of the paid-for suspension parts on the XLS before I eventually swap them for the Touring parts, or just go with a quality aftermarket brand. However, in my opinion the significance of VSC far outweighs the benefits of the slightly firmer Touring suspension because I can give the XLS a firmer suspension whenever I want, but the VSC can never be added to the Touring. Otherwise the interior/exterior differences between the two cars are just in color choices and the Touring's tiny spoiler. You gotta take them each on a 20-30 minute drive, back to back to see what's right for you. Avalon is a large car and cannot be made to handle like an Infinity G35 or BMW, etc unless you spend a serious amount of $$$ on upgraded parts, but the XLS can be made to handle like the Touring for far less. The only reason I went with the XLS was to have VSC. The added options on the XLS were just gravy. If you do go with the Touring, make sure you test drive the model you're gonna buy to be sure it's not one with a steering/drifting problem. Regards, Deanie P.S. I've gotta learn to go to sleep earlier! |
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