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Re: Price is about the same [exfhp50]
by loi177
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May 25, 2008 (1:50 am)
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Replying to: exfhp50 (May 24, 2008 4:47 am)
market price of 04 TSX with navigation in 04 was around $26K. and good conditions can still be fetched from $16 to $18K. so hardly it loses value after 4 years. and if you are driving long trip like 110 it will get around 32 to 34 mpg depeding on speed between 60 to 80mph. my overall average is 28mpg but commute is way shorter. even in SF hills with A/C i still managed 23mpg in the city. and there is no timing belt replacement at 90 to 100k miles like six cylinder accord which you will need in case of 04 model. so older TSX is better than older 04 accord. I doubt you can get similar mpg with older sixcylinder engine.
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Re: Price is about the same [loi177]
by exfhp50
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Jun 30, 2008 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: loi177 (May 25, 2008 1:50 am)
Sounds reasonable, but from what I have been reading either car could get 32 - 34 mpg. I can't remember if I mentioned but I'm in Florida so not many hills to contend with (at least none larger than overpasses). Also, what's the deal with the timing belt in the Accord?
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Re: Price is about the same [exfhp50]
by tallman1
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Jun 30, 2008 (1:30 pm)
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Replying to: exfhp50 (Jun 30, 2008 12:37 pm)
Also, what's the deal with the timing belt in the Accord?
For the last several years, the I-4s don't have them but the V6s do. Is that what you wanted to know?
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Re: Price is about the same [tallman1]
by exfhp50
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Jul 01, 2008 (1:07 pm)
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Replying to: tallman1 (Jun 30, 2008 1:30 pm)
So does that mean the V6 has a timing belt and the I4 has a timing chain and that there is a problem with the belt in the V6? I keep hearing about how important it is to change the timing belt in the V6 every 100k.
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Re: Price is about the same [exfhp50]
by elroy5
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Jul 01, 2008 (1:54 pm)
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Replying to: exfhp50 (Jul 01, 2008 1:07 pm)
The I4 has a chain, and the V6 has a timing belt. Belts get worn over 100k miles, and should be changed. I think the reason the V6 has a belt, instead of a chain, is because a belt would have to be long, and heavy due to the engine configuration, and probably be noisier. Did you ever notice how quiet the V6 engines are? I think at least part of that is due to the belt.
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Re: Price is about the same [elroy5]
by exfhp50
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Jul 01, 2008 (2:50 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 01, 2008 1:54 pm)
Ahh I see, thank you.
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Re: Price is about the same [exfhp50]
by tallman1
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Jul 01, 2008 (2:51 pm)
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Replying to: exfhp50 (Jul 01, 2008 1:07 pm)
As Elroy says, it is important to change the timing belt when it is due. It is just a regular maintenance item. You are talking a major repair bill if it breaks. Most folks also change the water pump at the same time since everything is already apart and it doesn't add that much more to the cost.
My 95 EX I4 that my son drives has a timing belt and I pushed it during one interval but with 230k miles, I try to stay on top of those things now. 
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Re: Price is about the same [tallman1]
by milo57
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Jul 04, 2008 (8:59 am)
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Replying to: tallman1 (Jul 01, 2008 2:51 pm)
Within the past two weeks I've test driven 3 different 4 cylinder '08 cars: an Accord Coupe, an Altima Coupe, and a TSX with 5 speed auto.
The Altima had by far the best low end acceleration, and the Accord by far the worst. The TSX had the best handling, and the Accord the worst.
Having owned Hondas in the past, I was disappointed in the Accord. As far as '08 is concerned, Honda has been out-engineered.
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Re: Price is about the same [milo57]
by bodble2
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Jul 06, 2008 (1:16 am)
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Replying to: milo57 (Jul 04, 2008 8:59 am)
"...and the Accord by far the worst"
By far? That's interesting, and surprising. The power and torque ratings, and curb weight of the '08 Accord and TSX are so similar. I wonder how the heavier '09 TSX would fare against the Accord 4 cylinder?
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03 Accord and 09 TSX
by fjpthree
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Aug 03, 2008 (1:15 pm)
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Recently traded my 03 Accord for the new TSX. The Accord was a V6 with 150,000 miles on it. (Received $8000 on a trade.) There TSX is just a blast to drive and the difference in power is only noticable when you want to act crazy. Co-worker has the new 08 Accord (4 cylinder). She drove my TSX and stated the TSX "felt" faster.
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