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Re: '04 vs '04 [bug4]
by thegraduate
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May 20, 2008 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: bug4 (May 20, 2008 9:10 am)
The last test I saw of the 4-cyl Accord had the top speed listed as 130mph, limited electronically (it's tires are only rated to that speed).
As for me, once or twice a year over 90 MPH is plenty.
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- #636 of 661
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Re: '04 vs '04 [thegraduate]
by loi177
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May 21, 2008 (9:43 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (May 19, 2008 8:12 pm)
u cannot maintain 70mph constant where i live. some time u have to go below 60mph and some time acclerate to 90mph. TSX excess power and aerodymanics allow it and still manage to get over 28mpg. A/C does not have effect. TSX cost more upfront has longer warranty, better dealer service with loaner cars and complimentary car wash etc. 4 cylinder accord is too big for parking and less grip on moving on curves.
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- #637 of 661
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Re: '04 vs '04 [loi177]
by thegraduate
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May 22, 2008 (5:28 am)
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Replying to: loi177 (May 21, 2008 9:43 pm)
A/C does not have effect.
Yes, it does.
some time u have to go below 60mph and some time acclerate to 90mph. TSX excess power and aerodymanics allow it and still manage to get over 28mpg.
Which the Accord can do just fine, and get better mileage in the process.
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Price is about the same
by exfhp50
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May 24, 2008 (4:47 am)
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To me it seems like the TSX doesn't hold it value as well as the Accords have. I'm not sure how much a TSX was in '04. Compare that price to what an EX V6 6 speed Accord coupe was in '04. Now, at least where I'm at, they are price in the same ballpark range 13-16k. I may consider a 4 cyl Accord coupe but I will have to drive one to see.
As far as backseat space is concerned, I don't have any kids yet so no big deal. I'm looking for that balance of performance and mpg and 28 won't cut it. I drive a bunch so it needs to last as well. Oh if forgot to mention, we are moving this weekend so I now have a 110 mi commute.
Thanks for all the info, keep it coming.
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Re: Price is about the same [exfhp50]
by elroy5
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May 24, 2008 (6:09 am)
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Replying to: exfhp50 (May 24, 2008 4:47 am)
Oh if forgot to mention, we are moving this weekend so I now have a 110 mi commute.
Ooooo, you may want to think about a Civic Hybrid (or other Hybrid) for that drive. With that kind of commute, and the price of gas now, it could pay for itself in no time.
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- #640 of 661
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Re: Price is about the same [exfhp50]
by loi177
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May 25, 2008 (1:50 am)
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Replying to: exfhp50 (May 24, 2008 4:47 am)
market price of 04 TSX with navigation in 04 was around $26K. and good conditions can still be fetched from $16 to $18K. so hardly it loses value after 4 years. and if you are driving long trip like 110 it will get around 32 to 34 mpg depeding on speed between 60 to 80mph. my overall average is 28mpg but commute is way shorter. even in SF hills with A/C i still managed 23mpg in the city. and there is no timing belt replacement at 90 to 100k miles like six cylinder accord which you will need in case of 04 model. so older TSX is better than older 04 accord. I doubt you can get similar mpg with older sixcylinder engine.
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Re: Price is about the same [loi177]
by exfhp50
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Jun 30, 2008 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: loi177 (May 25, 2008 1:50 am)
Sounds reasonable, but from what I have been reading either car could get 32 - 34 mpg. I can't remember if I mentioned but I'm in Florida so not many hills to contend with (at least none larger than overpasses). Also, what's the deal with the timing belt in the Accord?
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Re: Price is about the same [exfhp50]
by tallman1
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Jun 30, 2008 (1:30 pm)
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Replying to: exfhp50 (Jun 30, 2008 12:37 pm)
Also, what's the deal with the timing belt in the Accord?
For the last several years, the I-4s don't have them but the V6s do. Is that what you wanted to know?
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Re: Price is about the same [tallman1]
by exfhp50
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Jul 01, 2008 (1:07 pm)
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Replying to: tallman1 (Jun 30, 2008 1:30 pm)
So does that mean the V6 has a timing belt and the I4 has a timing chain and that there is a problem with the belt in the V6? I keep hearing about how important it is to change the timing belt in the V6 every 100k.
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Re: Price is about the same [exfhp50]
by elroy5
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Jul 01, 2008 (1:54 pm)
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Replying to: exfhp50 (Jul 01, 2008 1:07 pm)
The I4 has a chain, and the V6 has a timing belt. Belts get worn over 100k miles, and should be changed. I think the reason the V6 has a belt, instead of a chain, is because a belt would have to be long, and heavy due to the engine configuration, and probably be noisier. Did you ever notice how quiet the V6 engines are? I think at least part of that is due to the belt.
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