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Re: Accord v6 vs. TSX [bothofthem] by stevehecht
Mar 11, 2007 (3:47 pm)
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Replying to: bothofthem (Mar 07, 2007 11:04 pm)

I believe the V6's suspension was firmed up a bit in '06 (or '05?) because of the larger stock 17" wheels, so that firmed the ride up a bit compared to your TSX.
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Accord vs TSX replying to stevehecht by bothofthem
Mar 11, 2007 (5:12 pm)
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I agree- I haven't driven the Accord with 17's, but it makes sense. One more thing while I'm posting; my Accord has a suspended gas pedal, while the TSX has an "organ pedal"- hinged at the bottom. This changes my driving style, because if I rotate my right foot to the gas from the brake I'm too low on the TSX gas pedal to get light action. Now I move my heel to the base of the gas pedal and the response is better. If I want to move off the line (in spite of the tires!), I have my left foot on the brake pedal, take it up to 2500, and move off the line in manumatic mode. Around the city (most of my miles) I'm in D3 if not manual. The TSX responds to this approach as well as the Accord does in D, and is more interesting while things unfold. This is more information than most of us want,probably,but I think I can say that with a bit of effort, the TSX moves as well as an Accord, with different driving techniques.Sure- if I drive the Accord the same way as the TSX it's quicker, but I think the Accord encourages drivers to flow along in D.
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I have 06 Civic SI wheels on my 04 EXL by gee35coupe
Mar 14, 2007 (11:08 am)
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They alone made the Accord suspension feel firmer than the TSX.
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Those wheels also look good on the TSX.
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Re: I have 06 Civic SI wheels on my 04 EXL [gee35coupe] by bothofthem
Mar 14, 2007 (6:30 pm)
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Replying to: gee35coupe (Mar 14, 2007 11:08 am)

You have 245 45 17 wheels- that would make a diff. What about the stiffer suspension rates and lower-assist steering in the TSX? I can see wheel and suspension mods sharpening up my EX-L V6, for sure.
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I have the stock size.... by gee35coupe
Mar 15, 2007 (7:44 am)
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215/50/17 on the TSX and the same size on the Accord. I think the suspension ont he Accord is stiffer than the TSX but the stock size tires hides it. It certainly feels stiffer than our TSX. I have the A-spec kit for my TSX sitting in a box in the garage, but I'm waiting to see what the next Accord looks like before I have it installed. If I like it, I'll be getting one when the TSX lease is up. If not, I'll just keep the TSX and make a couple of other mods.
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Re: I have 06 Civic SI wheels on my 04 EXL [bothofthem] by stevehecht
Mar 16, 2007 (8:05 pm)
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Replying to: bothofthem (Mar 14, 2007 6:30 pm)

I'm about to replace my stock Michelins with Kumho SPTs, but I can't decide whether to stay with 215/50 or go to 225/45. Then, depending on how they do, I could be on to Koni Yellows and H&R OE Sport Springs. And/or maybe a thicker rsb (17mm up from 14mm) from the TL.
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Re: I have 06 Civic SI wheels on my 04 EXL [stevehecht] by fedlawman
Mar 16, 2007 (9:00 pm)
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Replying to: stevehecht (Mar 16, 2007 8:05 pm)

Going to 225mm is such a miniscule change in width, it will do more for looks than actual performance. It's the tire compound that matters most, and the SPT's should give a significant boost in grip.
 
I'd do the sway bar first. It's inexpensive and also the single most effective way to reduce understeer.
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Re: I have 06 Civic SI wheels on my 04 EXL [fedlawman] by stevehecht
Mar 16, 2007 (9:25 pm)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Mar 16, 2007 9:00 pm)

OK, so would a 235 width make an appreciable difference in performance over the 215? I believe that wider tires make for more road noise, and that's already high enough in the Accord.
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Re: I have 06 Civic SI wheels on my 04 EXL [stevehecht] by fedlawman
Mar 16, 2007 (10:15 pm)
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Replying to: stevehecht (Mar 16, 2007 9:25 pm)

Noticeable? Maybe. Appreciable, I doubt it.
 
There are a number of dynamics involved here, but put simply, a 215 Kumho Ecsta MX will grip better than a 235 Kumho Ecsta SPT because it's a superior performance tire. Of course, it might be noisier, and it might not last as long.
 
Still, if it were my money, I'd go with quality before quantity - the MX.
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Re: I have 06 Civic SI wheels on my 04 EXL [fedlawman] by stevehecht
Mar 17, 2007 (12:55 pm)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Mar 16, 2007 10:15 pm)

So I just ordered the 215/50 SPTs from TireRack.com. I'll put them on with a TL 17mm RSB and see what happens. Thanks for your input, fedlawman.

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