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Honda Accord, Acura TSX, Sedan
#394 of 661 TSX vs. Accord . . . the better car is . . .
Jan 25, 2006 (12:38 pm)
I would say it depends. Both are good cars.
I tested drove both cars w/o navigation and didn't try out the bluetooth features.
Keep in mind I test drove the 2006 Accord EX V6 and 2005 Acura TSX. I believe there are number of improvement for both cars since the 2003 Accord and 2004 TSX was tested at the start of this Discussion.
TSX: When you sit inside the TSX, you feel like everything I need is here in the car. That feeling of 'oh I wish it had this or that', you just feel happy that just about everything is standard.
TSX's interior is very nice. It is lux-sporty like the Audi A4 actually I may go ahead and say a bit better.
Power, since it's a 4 banger, it'a busy engine. Power is adequate but it is as about as smooth as it gets for a 4 banger.
The handling was very good, not great but very good. Better than the Accord. When I did a quick lane change and back (like the way I do with my friend's 325), it fishtailed. Perhaps it's the tires but regardless it fishtailed. Acura Integra handles better. BMW 325 is too tight for me. When it comes to handling, I would take the 2001 Prelude any day. It may not be a fair comparison as TSX does (sit up higher) have a higher road clearance.
Since it is smaller than the Accord, very easy to change lanes, turn and park. Obviously Acura dealer will treat you better than the Accord.
Accord: When you sit inside the Accord, no surprise, all the buttons are where they should be as it's been for the past 20+ years.
Power is when Accord definitely has the edge. V6 is smooth and it gets up and go.
Good handling. Now I didn't even attempt that quick lane change that caused the fishtail in the TSX. Accord is a bigger car, so I didn't even try it. Turns and cornering was plenty enough for me to say, Accord handling is good but TSX is better. Again, 2001 Prelude . . .
Conclusion: You can't go wrong with both cars.
TSX is unique where Accords are dime a dozen with a bit better handling.
Accord holds its own with better power and roomier interior and lower price.
Gas milage (TSX) vs. insurance cost (Accord) off set each other IMO.
I personally, I like the 2006 Accord V6 EX better only because more room and bigger trunk to me is more important than the positives of the TSX.
Price is a factor too for most people. If Acura lowers the TSX price to Accord V6 EX, I there may be more TSX owners than the Accord V6 EX.
#395 of 661 Re: TSX vs. Accord . . . the better car is . . . [heejoman]
Jan 25, 2006 (12:55 pm)
Very good points in your message. I hope you don't mind if I add something to it...
The TSX requires premium unleaded, making what tiny advantage it had in mileage all but dissappear, if not giving it to the Accord V-6. The TSX engine has similar torque figures as the 4-cylinder Accord, but the Accord's actually peaks several hundred RPM lower, giving it a slight advantage in the lower rev range (under 4k RPM). The TSX obviously out does it in power overall, though. The Accords is just slightly more flexible.
#396 of 661 Re: other considerations for picking the TSX [midnightcowboy]
Jan 25, 2006 (3:13 pm)
Perhaps I should've been clearer. I've driven the 7th gen Accord 5-6 times, owned a 2000 Accord EX-V6, and currently own the TSX.
My quibble was with this statement: Handling (TSX)- only slightly better than 6-speed V6
Whether or not you own/drive a 7th gen Accord sedan or coupe, the TSX is not just "slightly better" in the handling department than either Accord. It is substantially better in stock form, for the reasons I listed above.
How can you say the 6th gen Accord has "much less" handling then the 7th gen, then turn around and say that the TSX's handling is only "slightly" better than the current Accord?
Accord (sedan with either tranny)= boring, TSX = fun-to-drive. I never made any mention of the Civic Si, nor I have I driven one. By all accounts it is excellent, and is much closer to the TSX in demeanor than the Accord.
The six speed coupe is very nice, albeit a tad homely. I shopped one and would be happy in one. Can't hang with the TSX in the tight stuff though.
johnny420, who also likes cruis'n in 6th, even though 3rd is the TSX's magic gear.
#397 of 661 Re: Accord EX V6 Auto Leather vs Acura TSX? [nead_a_car]
Jan 25, 2006 (4:37 pm)
go with the accord ex i have a 2002 ex v6 accord and love it though it is a 2d coupe.
Jan 25, 2006 (4:56 pm)
When looking for a sporty sedan about 2 years ago was between two cars, the Audi A4 1.8T and the Acura TSX. Two years ago I got the A4 my first car, a few months ago I got the TSX for my second car. The Accord is not even a consideration in this category. I am not looking for a family car with a big engine. I don't care how many kids I can fit in the back, or how many groceries go in the trunk. I am looking for a car that is fun to drive, the A4 and TSX are each a blast to drive in their own way. Again, we are comparing cars that appeal to totally different buyers.
#399 of 661 Re: Apples and Oranges [speedracer3]
Jan 25, 2006 (6:57 pm)
Some see it your way, others (like myself) see it like this.
The Acura TSX and Accord EXV6 are priced right on top of each other. Both have Honda's exceptional reliability, and are "at least" fun to drive. The TSX is the playful one, and the Accord is the powerful one. On the one side, the TSX is more stylish, but the Accord counters its lack of cache with a more commodious interior (roomy, in layman speak). The TSX offers a few more features not available on Accord (HID headlights, for example), while the Honda has a broader dealer network. The TSX will be a rarer commodity on the road (a good thing), but will draw less attention for resale (pure speculation on my part). Hondas seem to draw used car buyers in like a moth to light, often selling for 20%+ over Kelley Blue Book value.
The TSX appeals to a smaller number of people, but those people may cross shop the Accord with its relative price and similar brand heritage.
#400 of 661 Re: Apples and Oranges [thegraduate]
Jan 29, 2006 (1:54 pm)
A reasonable assessment. I don't think you, speedracer or myself are that far apart in our views.
I do think, however, that the demand for the TSX in the used market will be vigorous. Maybe not at the level of the Accord, but enthusiasts seeking a practical alternative to the family hauler will some out of the woodwork if they come across this car in the Auto Trader or some similar publication. Especially those seeking a stylish sedan with a sporting nature and a manual gearbox. My two cents worth.
I'm not sure I agree that the Accord regularly sells for 20% over KBB, though. The market for Accords is saturated, and it would seem to defy market economics that demand for such a readily available product would exceed supply. Again, just my two cents worth.
#401 of 661 Re: Apples and Oranges [johnny420]
Jan 29, 2006 (4:15 pm)
I agree that we tend to agree on the same basic ideas. I just make the comment about KBB b/c I got offered $2,500 trade-in for my 96 Accord LX with 156,500 miles on it (it lists for $1,595 in "good" condition for a trade in. We also got $17,000 for a slightly damaged (cosmetic only) 2 year old (it was a 2003) Accord EX 4-cyl Auto/Cloth w/37k miles. It showed up at about $14,000 on the books. Turns out, one of the salesmen wanted to buy it, though, so it is a special case there.
I have personal experience with getting well over kbb, but I'm definitely not saying that Acuras will not garner the same premium, I'm just not experienced with trading those.
#402 of 661 Resale value and such
Jan 30, 2006 (12:35 pm)
I've never bought cars strictly based on resale value, so why start now. I actually like the fact that TSX's are not a dime a dozen like Accords. There is a certain exclusivity factor (albeit minor) when not every person on the road is driving the same car you are. Call me the black sheep, but my sheep has a spoiler
#403 of 661 Re: Resale value and such [speedracer3]
Jan 30, 2006 (12:47 pm)
Call me the black sheep, but my sheep has a spoiler
Oh speedracer, you are so baaaaad.
Haha, a lot of people feel this way about wanting to drive something outside the "norm". Nothing wrong with that, it is your dollar after all!