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Well, actually reliaibility was at ... by midnightcowboy
Mar 01, 2005 (1:09 pm)
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at the top of my list then as follows in descending order:
 
6-speed manual quality important
performance
miles per gallon
Car cost
Depreciation cost
Insurance cost
Ability to use regular gas
Security and remote door lock/unlock
Trip Computer
Safety Air bags: front, side, side curtain
Tires and maintenance cost
Sporty driving feel
Good stereo
Moonroof
Roof Rack that could carry two Kayaks or two bicycles
Good Trunk space
NAV system
Ability to carry at least three people
Handling
Braking: ABS, EBD,
Autoclimate control
New Formula Red or Milano Red color; second choice black
Xexon lights
Heated Mirrors
DRL
TCS
VCS
Front wheel drive
 
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And my choice was a 2005 Black Honda Accord Coupe 6-speed with NAV
 
Someone that is driving a 13 year car maybe is not on the same car enthusiast level that I am. Although I still have a car the is almost that old, a 5-speed Lexus ES300 that still has better fetures than most cars available today, such as a setero that blows away the Mazda3 and Nissan Altima line, heated mirror, autoclimate control, quiet-still no squeaks, sporty handling, crisp acceleration with a 5-speed and only a 185 hp 3.0 L V6.
 
Again, acceleration and horsepower are important to the car buying public. If it wasn't so than why do all car vendors keep increasing the horsepower.,. Even the Avalon has go to a dual exhaust 280 Hp car that now is stating their 0-60 mph time as 6.6 seconds.
 
I guess maybe I am just an old manual shift fart from the muscle car era that still likes performance and manual shift. My first car out of college was a 1970 Oldsmobile 442 4-speed manual shift.
 
So bottom line, I drove a TSX 6-speed and a 5-speed automatic and thought it was two slow. I used to have a 1995 Acura GSR and looked at the RSX-S but I didn't like the red colored gauges. The Acura contender I was seriously looking at as a 6-speed TL w/NAV but I couldn't in my own mind justify spending almost $8,000 more at a significantly higher finance rate.
 
Okay for the final test, including this occurrence how many times did I mention performance. By the way did I mention that the performance of the TSX is pretty limp.
 
Good Day,
 
MidCow
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Midcow by uncledavid
Mar 01, 2005 (1:38 pm)
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"Midcow" - I think the Accord Coupe V6 was a fine choice for you given your priorities. Having driven Accords for 15 years, I feel confident that you'll be happy with your choice and have a very reliable car that will serve you well. I also think that, in terms of value (what you get for your money), the Accord can't be matched by ANY vehicle in ANY price range that is available right now.
 
That said, I frankly find the comment that the performance of the TSX is "limp" to be rather ridiculous (not trying to insult you personally -just taking issue with that one particular comment). I have 25,000 miles on mine, and if anything, if feels pretty lively around town. I think that is a particularly silly statement if you are talking about the 6MT version of the TSX (which is fairly quick).
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Okay let me explain ... Limp by midnightcowboy
Mar 01, 2005 (1:56 pm)
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UncleDavid,
 
Maybe a better word would be isolated or sophisticated. It felt more like my Lexus IS300 isolated, disconnected and not as sporty feeling.
 
Yes, the TSX is a fine car, also. I apologize for any offense. But contrary to what poster #271 said, it is not ridiculous to consider acceleration.
 
Then there is the Borla Cat-Back addition
 
Cheers,
 
MidCow
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Accord issues by uncledavid
Mar 01, 2005 (2:22 pm)
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MidCow - this is your car. I think ANYTHING that is important to you personally is what matters and nobody has the right to say otherwise. So, if acceleration is a major issue to you, I think it makes pefect sense to opt for a V6 Accord over a 4-cyl TSX. If raw power is a high priority, a TSX is not a good option. That is why I commented that you had made a good choice, based on your own priorities. Besides, based on what I've read of your posts over the year, I recognize that you are an enthusiast who knows his vehicles well. So, I'm sure your choice was an informed one.
 
That said, if you felt the TSX was "isolated", I wonder a bit about why you opted for a softer sprung kind of vehicle. I've owned Accord Coupes for years. I loved both of the coupes I had and but a ton of miles on them. But, those cars were not in the least sporty in day-to-day driving. The Accord Coupe is a lot more like a Camry than it is a IS300 (unless, of course, you plan to make some mods).
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Need advice by evped
Mar 02, 2005 (6:06 am)
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I am thinking about trading my 03 Accord EX (5 speed) for a new 6 speed TSX. My concerns are mpg and using premium fuel. I would like something a little smaller and sportier. My Accord is great and averages between 32-34 mpg (mostly highway). Is the difference between the two cars worth the 10 grand it will cost to switch to the TSX or should I wait for the new Civic to come out? Any educated opinion would be welcomed. Thanks.
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Re: Honda Turbo... [indydriver] by clint98v6at
Mar 02, 2005 (8:29 am)
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Replying to: indydriver (Mar 01, 2005 9:28 am)

While F1 has been normally-aspirated for a while, turbos were allowed from 77-88. Nelson Piquet won the F1 title in 87 with Williams/Honda and Ayrton Senna won the title in 88 with McLaren/Honda. Both were turbo engines.
 
Honda was getting 120hp/liter from the NA 2.0L inline 4 cyl. in the S2000 from 00-03 (bumped to 2.2L in 04). While not a V configuration, it's still very high hp/liter for a NA engine.
#278 of 661
Re: Need advice [evped] by lmacmil
Mar 02, 2005 (1:37 pm)
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Replying to: evped (Mar 02, 2005 6:06 am)

"I am thinking about trading my 03 Accord EX (5 speed) for a new 6 speed TSX."
 
Here's my $.02, having driven neither but having read all the road tests and this forum comments. Yes the TSX is smaller & sportier. You can use regular fuel with a slight drop in performance (per the brochure). You're going to take a pretty big hit on the '03 because obviously depreciation is biggest in the 1st two years.
 
Is it worth $10,000? Only you can make that judgement. It wouldn't be for me. I would enjoy the Accord for a couple more years then go for used 2005 TSX.
#279 of 661
Re: Well, actually reliaibility was at ... [midnightcowboy] by indydriver
Mar 02, 2005 (2:44 pm)
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Replying to: midnightcowboy (Mar 01, 2005 1:09 pm)

Perfect choice given that styling doesn't make your top 28 priorities!
#280 of 661
Re: Need advice [evped] by indydriver
Mar 02, 2005 (2:48 pm)
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Replying to: evped (Mar 02, 2005 6:06 am)

Go for the TSX. You'll be thrilled with it. You can get 30+ on the hwy with moderate driving and the premium fuel will only cost you $200 per year. Get a Shell Mastercard and save 5% with every purchase and it will only cost you $100 per year. Do you think you're worth it?
#281 of 661
Re: Honda Turbo... [clint98v6at] by gee35coupe
Mar 02, 2005 (3:50 pm)
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Replying to: clint98v6at (Mar 02, 2005 8:29 am)

Thanks Clint for clarifying. Guess I won't have to post that link now.

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