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Acura TL, Sedan
#8915 of 12077 Reference to TL buyers
Mar 06, 2008 (2:52 pm)
I live in Carmel, Indiana (Indianapolis suburb). We only have 2 Acura dealers (not a good place for bargain hunters) in the area, but still manage to get fair deal. Donít ever tell dealer you want to trade-in your car. Even if you have a trade-in tell them you may or may not trade it in depending on dealerís offer. 9 out of 10 times, if you get fair offer for your new car they will lowball on your trade-in. You will always get more for your car when you sell it yourself. I didnít trade-in my 2001 New Passat GLX Auto because both dealers offered way below KBB trade-in value. They offered $2500 ~ $3000 below KBB trade-in value. Iíll just put up a for sale sign. I didnít finance because Iím just one of those people who donít like paying interest. Only thing that Iím paying interest on is my mortgage. I canít help it. I didnít have enough cash to pay for it in full. LOL Some people think that you could get better deal by paying cash for your car. This is NOT TRUE. Dealer gets money weather you pay cash or finance. Not many people know that dealer gets commission if you finance your car. Dealer is only a middle man between the lender and the buyer, therefore when the lender approves the loan and the buyer accepts it dealer get commission from the lender.
Here is what I paid for 2008 Acura TL w/Nav
Price of Vehicle ------ $ 31,498.00 ( Includes Destination Charge )
Tax ----------------------- $ 1,889.88 ( 6% Indiana Tax Rate )
Tire Tax ----------------- $ 1.25
Documentary Fee --- $ 99.00
Total ...................... $ 33,488.13 ( I wrote the check for this amount )
* I had dealer throw in color matched splash guard at no charge.
* I bought the car built in 02/08. Dealer wanted me to take the car built in 09/07 with same color and 25 mi on it, but I said NO.
* In Indiana, dealer doesnít collect Title & Registration Fee. Buyer has to go to DMV(itís called BMV in Indiana) for Title and Registration on new car purchase.
Hope this helps folks who are looking for new car. ^.^
#8916 of 12077 my buying experience
Mar 06, 2008 (4:31 pm)
Just letting you know my transaction. I just got a new 08 TL w/nav for 31.5K a week ago. I took the 2k dealer cash over the 2.9% finance they offered. My total out of pocket cost came to a little under 33.4k. I went do woodfiend acrua in woodfield IL. they were very nice!
I also have a question that i hope one of you know... it said in the review that you can have the climate function displayed on the nav screen. does anyone know how to do this? I have yet to figure it out! Maybe I'm just slow.. but can someone please let me know? Thanks!
#8917 of 12077 Re: Reference to TL buyers. [kyekyk]
Mar 06, 2008 (5:28 pm)
Actually the applied the $2,000 incentive on leased vehicles. You put $2,000 down and pay $359 for base lease on TL. It used to be $4,000 down, $459 a month
#8918 of 12077 Re: my buying experience [lockgiants]
Mar 06, 2008 (5:38 pm)
What is current tax rate for vehicle purchase in Schaumburg, IL. I though it was 6.5% at least. You said you paid $ 31,500 for the TL w/Nav and total came out to under $33,400.
Price of car ------- $31,500.00
Tax ------------------- $ 2,047.50 ( Tax Rate 6.5% )
Title ------------------ $ ?
Registration ------- $ ?
Document Fee --- $ ?
$ 33,547.50 ( before title, registration and doc. Fee)
Without factoring in title, registration and document fee (because I have no clue how much you paid for these) itís already over your claimed out of pocket total of little under 33.4K. Can you share your secrete on how you manage to do it? This could help others in your area.
#8919 of 12077 Re: Type S Wheels [23109vc]
Mar 06, 2008 (9:20 pm)
Don't worry about it, it really didn't sound nasty, just miffed a bit
I have to wonder if you drove a crappy TL-S or something like that, the shift gates on mine a slick. In fact when I first test drove the TL-S I thought second gear was neutral and was trying to pull it farther back LOL. MY 98 Maxima traveled twice as far in the gates, it took some getting used to. The clutch is amazing in comparison as well, easy to predict and modulate, I can use the throttle a lot more on take off than my Maxima could. We had really nasty weather in Dallas/FW today and the TL-S is amazingly stable on wet roads, the other drivers were really pissing me off...they were sooo slow! For straight line freeway in inclement weather the FWD has an advantage all it's own: If you keep the throttle on, it's really hard for the rear end to get out of line, or stay out. Let off the gas and the opposite is instantly true. When hitting troughs and puddles, the FWD just pulls the car through, even if the rear end steps out, since the front wheels are pulling forward, the rear end tracks back in line. I used this idea to hilarious results on the traffic circle last year when it snowed hard. I was bored and there was no traffic so I set the parking brake and drifted around the circle with the rear and dragging like a wake board. You can easily modulate the drift with the throttle and if you let off completely you get a nice 180. I recommend that anyone who sees snow covered road try this in a parking lot or empty street, it's great practice. Most of the wrecks I saw in the snow last year were single vehicle, the darn Texans panic when they see ice and let off the gas or slam on the brakes, then they go flying. It's counter-intuitive to the non-performance driver to stay on the throttle, and the news media doesn't help by telling everyone to slow down. Anyway, that was a nice tangent! LOL.
#8920 of 12077 Re: Reference to TL buyers. [kyekyk]
Mar 07, 2008 (8:13 am)
Thanks kyekyk for such a detailed post. Very useful!
I am in the market for a TL-S in the Illinois area, I am going to use your post to negotiate a good price.
What has worked for me very well in the past was to e-mail multiple dealers in your area/s and have them compete for your business. Just bought a Lexus 08RX 350 for $2k under invoice using this technique~!
Enjoy your TL, its at such a sweet spot, luxurios and sporty at the same time, very few cars that can compete with it at its price point!
#8921 of 12077 Re: my buying experience [kyekyk]
Mar 07, 2008 (12:41 pm)
Don't forget that (at least in PA and NJ and I suspect most places) you pay sales tax on the difference between the purchase and the trade (if trading-in), not simply on the straight purchase price of the TL. So if he made a trade for $10,000 then the sales tax would only be about 66% of what you quoted.
#8922 of 12077 Acura TL w/NAVI - $31K in Central NJ
Mar 07, 2008 (1:02 pm)
Thanks to everyone for all the great information....it's really invaluable. So I thought I would share my buying experience for those in central NJ.
Purchased 2008 TL w/NAVI from Springfield Acura for:
Price: $31,000 including Destination
Etch: $188 (Don't really need but didn't haggle over it)
NJ Tire Tax: $7.50
NJ Tax: 7%
Contact John Freudenberger, Internet Sales.
Wasn't a terrible buying experience (since I have low expectations) but three things really irked me.
1. I sent an email with all the exact details of the purchase conditions including the price & financing. During the financing part of the buying process, it was 'conveniently" overlooked that I had stated that 2.9% as the finance rate.
2. Which leads to my next issue, they kept urging me to give them the down payment when I hadn't received or signed the contract. Who the hell in their right mind signs over thousands of dollars for a downpayment without seeing or agreeing to a contract?!?!?!? Give me $K now and oh by the way, the price and financing rate just changed. Maybe I am naive and this is the standard practice in the car industry but as a manager of million dollar contracts, it seems ludicrous. As it turned out, that's when I was notified that the agreed to 2.9% financing rate was not available. I still got a decent rate but I was more upset about what I thought was bad business....whether it was intentional or not.
3. I was prepared to speak to multiple people thanks to Edmunds. Amazing how many of the story details are true. I learned to ignore everything they say or do and just focus on what matters, the details of the sale (Must Read - "Confessions of a Cars Salesman" - http://www.edmunds.com/advice/buying/articles/42962/article.html)
However, why the hell did it take 3 hours for a car purchase when all the terms of the deal were clearly stated in my email. Oh by the way, bring in extra copies of any and all communication.....they steal your copy and never give it back. I should've been out of there in 1.5 hours tops.....even with the negotiation on the financing. If it weren't for the great price, I'd walked out after an hour.
All in all, I'm very happy with the price and financing terms. I'd give my experience with Springfield Acura a "C+".....the salesmen were somewhat friendly (except for the big shot) but the whole car buying game is ridiculous. Hope this helps you potential buyers.
#8923 of 12077 Wow .9% Financing NOW!
Mar 07, 2008 (3:19 pm)
I bought mine back in Dec of 07, and got 2.9%,,, Wow they must be hurting now! .9% why not just make it 0% man what a great deal going on now!
#8924 of 12077 SoCal Price Paid
Mar 08, 2008 (12:26 am)
Purchased base TL $30,100 with 0.9%, 48 mos. financing. Price includes destination charge (does not include tax, lic, etc). Financing goes to 2.9% if 60 mos term. Dealer offered $28,900 if we got our own financing.
PowerAcura in Torrance, CA. Fleet and Internet Department. They emailed the price and encouraged me to shop it around. Shopped it at two largest dealerships and they didn't counter
No pressure from Finance guy to purchase add ons. Great experience.