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Replying to: 23109vc (Feb 13, 2008 10:06 pm) I am an enthusiast driver and I do drive hard most of the time, but I had to be realistic and admit that 90% of the time (or more) I am simply just driving the car to work. My commute would have the G35 6M running at 3200 rpm where the TL-S is running a more sedate 2750 rpm. That ends up being quite a difference in fuel mileage. Not that I care THAT much( I would have bought a Jetta Diesel if I did), but If I have a choice between two similar cars and there is 3-4 mpg difference, I'll take the better mileage. The G35 is also a little less refined in engine note with extra noise transmitted through the shifter. Engine wise the TL-S could stand to be a tad louder because it actually sounds so darn good. I really don't get how Infiniti could make a car with 6 speeds and not have 6th as a real overdrive, even with that big, torquey 3.5 liter engine. Add to the practicality with Honda reliability and a price advantage, plus the car insurance is $400 a year more, the TL-S was the winner although it was a compromise dynamically. When I was in my 20's I could have put up with more, but I am now 40 and expect more for my money, especially if I am only going to drive 1 car. The G35 did have a neat laser cruise control option which could even pre-prime the brakes, but that pushed the price even higher. The best deals I could get on a G35 was around $37-38K, I closed on my TL-S for $33.9K. There have only been a few times I wished I had RWD, and of course that is so I could use power oversteer around a corner instead of plowing. Other than that powering out of corners, you hardly feel the FWD. We have had no snow yet this year here in Texas, but last year a G35 Sport would have been a garage queen(comes with summer tires). It would not have been usable on the roads, granted that was only a couple days, but I do have to get to work. Bottom line is: I love the G35 and it was a tough decision, but I have no regrets, especially money wise, I saved 5k off the top, $400 a year in insurance and about $350 a year in fuel costs......... the TL-S becomes a bargain. One way I helped myself was to make a spreadsheet with an ordinal ranking system of my needs and wants. I gave each area a certain amount of points then individually ranked the top contender cars. The TL-S won, the Legacy GT came in second (It was the most tuner friendly, plus AWD and 6MT), the Cadillac CTS-V took third by a nose over the Infiniti G35. This was because not only was it RWD, it was tuner friendly and started with 400 hp and had huge emotional appeal for me. Fortunately this process helped bring me back to reality, a realm that the TL-S rules.  |
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I am having difficult time decidind between 02,01 Acura TL and BMW 3 Series. Any advice willbe most welcome. Regards. Ucal |
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Replying to: ursamajor1 (Feb 08, 2008 2:12 pm) I was very close to settling for a 2008 Accord EX-L, V-6 with Navi (with the rearview camera accessory) at approx. $29,750. For only $1200+ more I decided to get the TL.
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Replying to: jkisjca (Feb 18, 2008 7:49 pm) Enjoy and keep posting. Thanks |
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Hi All, I have secured a deal in NJ. Lease factor : .00045 Residual : 51 % with 15 k miles Selling price *35,320 (300 below invoice) TYPE S model 5spd auto 36 month term $495 a month includes 7 percent state tax (33 bucks) No money down, 1200 inception fees. I have montiored the local dealers inventory and notice the type S models are selling more than the Base TL with Navi. This simply means, the mid tier model are not selling well but the type S models will be in limited supply as we reach the 2nd quarter. It is likely there will be an incentive for the leasee...but dont expect 2000 lease cash. At best honda will provide 500 lease cash. However, they can opt to boost the residual rates to bring the lease payment down. I have never seen a lease factor lower than 1 percent with 8 years of leasing experience. Conclusion, if you are in the market to grab a type s, if you wait, you risk of having limited color choices and transmission. If you are in the market for a tl with navi, i suggest to wait it off as it will slightly get better in the form of rebates and there is plenty of supply around NY NJ area. For the lease beginner, you always want to ask for the lease factor. The figure will always be .00*** to calcuate the APY rate just multply lease factor x 2400 Why would you want to know this? Simply to know how much of your money is going to interest. Residual Rate: This is the buyout cost at the end of the lease. This is viewed differently depending on the circumstances. If the Residual rate is low, the lease payment will inflate. Not good for leasees. However, if you love the car, your buyout is less. Flip it around and its the total opposite. I secured the deal because my hunch is, the type S model will be limited and the rebate will not be much as Honda is expected to inflate the lease factor. In the end, , lease rebates its just a tactic to bring in customers to the showroom. This is pretty much as good as it gets if you ask me. I do not expect the TL type S to be at 51 percent value in the next 3 years. These cars hold their value much higher even when a new model is introduced. Besides, Acura is taking a chance of their styling direction to "stand out" It is a big risk. *Side Note: All acuras have a 3 percent holdback based on the MSRP of the car. When dealers sell the car below invoice, they will always say, they are not making any money. In reality, its not true. They are just willing to chip away from the dealer holdback. This occurs only when dealers are desperate to move their inventory. So for an acura tl type S, the total holdback is $1142 - with this deal they get roughly just 900 bucks profit. (this will be split to sales rep and other Overhead costs) The real profit is likely to be minimal to none. Either way, this is a great deal to the consumer. -G
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Replying to: gmaroun (Feb 18, 2008 10:08 pm) |
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I worked with the internet dept. of Sunnyvale Acura in Silicon Valley over the weekend. I started discussing a TL with them, then asked for a quote on an MDX, and bought one of those yesterday. Still, the TL quote I got was very attractive, and I still sort of regret letting that one go. (Btw, they also gave me an excellent lease offer on a TL, I'll post that in the leasing thread). For a base TL with navigation, here was the purchase deal: MSRP: $36,940 (including destination) Purchase Price: $30,997; basically they came in at $1000 under invoice (including destination) and threw in the full $2k dealer cash incentive on top of that. This was their opening email offer, with no negotiation. They had 4 or 5 colors available at that price. They indicated that the 2.9% (36 month) or 4.9% (60 month) financing deal from the MDX/RDX was available on the TL as well, but not the 2.9% 60 month deal, which was apparently only available in certain states, not including California. After dealing with a number of car sales folks of various makes over the last few weeks and coming away with a jaundiced view of humanity, I was very happy with the experience at Sunnyvale - very quick, friendly, honest and painless. If I want another Acura (and the new-gen TSX turbodiesel could be very appealing), I'll do my research but go straight to them.
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Replying to: ursamajor1 (Feb 19, 2008 10:55 am)
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Replying to: jkisjca (Feb 19, 2008 11:14 am)
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Replying to: sfgman63 (Feb 19, 2008 2:48 pm) Price: 37,687 Residual: 53 Acq Fee:595 doc fee: 159 no money down payment : 556 per month I got to the dealership 30 minutes before closing and didn't have time to negotiate, i will go back and purchase the vehicle i am shooting for 33,300 for the purchase price including destination and documentation. |
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