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Re: Leasing a TL in Orange County, Ca [aychen] by dimsumlo
Feb 13, 2008 (6:10 pm)
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Replying to: aychen (Feb 12, 2008 12:31 am)

HI aychen,
 
ic!! Thanks for the information. I'm currently waiting for the special financial interest rate for purchasing. Hopefully Acura will come out some kind of special financial options for TL on the beginning of March.
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Re: Leasing a TL in Orange County, Ca [dimsumlo] by punkyjunior895
Feb 13, 2008 (9:41 pm)
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Replying to: dimsumlo (Feb 13, 2008 6:10 pm)

Why are you guys who live in Cali, and nice weather areas, want a TL? I live in the north where it snows so FWD, is better than RWD in those conditions. But If I lived somewhere where I get less than an inch or none, I'd be driving a RWD car. I'm not bashing the TL though, I own one
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Re: Leasing a TL in Orange County, Ca [punkyjunior895] by 23109vc
Feb 13, 2008 (10:06 pm)
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Replying to: punkyjunior895 (Feb 13, 2008 9:41 pm)

i agree. RWD is better. what RWD car can I buy that is the same price as a TL, has the same technology, luxury, and is the same price?
 
the G35 fits...but I don't like it. the 335 is a better car but costs a LOT more.
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Re: Leasing a TL in Orange County, Ca [23109vc] by punkyjunior895
Feb 14, 2008 (7:19 am)
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Replying to: 23109vc (Feb 13, 2008 10:06 pm)

I guess your right. I bought the TL because it was a Honda, therefore expecting it to be quality. I had infiniti G35x prior, but was always in for repair because electrical devices failed. BMW is planning to reduce more costs in the next few years, so expect BMW quality to decline further than where it is now [there not what they were, same goes with MBenz]. I just read an article in a magazine, that says the car of choice that's becoming popular for world leaders now is the Lexus LS, and not a German car.
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Re: Leasing a TL in Orange County, Ca [23109vc] by chirocat
Feb 16, 2008 (7:50 pm)
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Replying to: 23109vc (Feb 13, 2008 10:06 pm)

Actually the G35 is not a "better" car, just different. If you plan on driving at 8-9/10's all the time, drifting around corners and don't car about fuel mileage or daily civility, the G35 is a better choice. But why buy a sedan if you are gonna drive like you are on a race track every day? Why not a purpose built sports car? Need something practical? Well that is were the G35 fell behind in my decision.
 
I am an enthusiast driver and I do drive hard most of the time, but I had to be realistic and admit that 90% of the time (or more) I am simply just driving the car to work. My commute would have the G35 6M running at 3200 rpm where the TL-S is running a more sedate 2750 rpm. That ends up being quite a difference in fuel mileage. Not that I care THAT much( I would have bought a Jetta Diesel if I did), but If I have a choice between two similar cars and there is 3-4 mpg difference, I'll take the better mileage. The G35 is also a little less refined in engine note with extra noise transmitted through the shifter. Engine wise the TL-S could stand to be a tad louder because it actually sounds so darn good. I really don't get how Infiniti could make a car with 6 speeds and not have 6th as a real overdrive, even with that big, torquey 3.5 liter engine.
 
Add to the practicality with Honda reliability and a price advantage, plus the car insurance is $400 a year more, the TL-S was the winner although it was a compromise dynamically. When I was in my 20's I could have put up with more, but I am now 40 and expect more for my money, especially if I am only going to drive 1 car. The G35 did have a neat laser cruise control option which could even pre-prime the brakes, but that pushed the price even higher. The best deals I could get on a G35 was around $37-38K, I closed on my TL-S for $33.9K.
 
There have only been a few times I wished I had RWD, and of course that is so I could use power oversteer around a corner instead of plowing. Other than that powering out of corners, you hardly feel the FWD. We have had no snow yet this year here in Texas, but last year a G35 Sport would have been a garage queen(comes with summer tires). It would not have been usable on the roads, granted that was only a couple days, but I do have to get to work.
 
Bottom line is: I love the G35 and it was a tough decision, but I have no regrets, especially money wise, I saved 5k off the top, $400 a year in insurance and about $350 a year in fuel costs......... the TL-S becomes a bargain. One way I helped myself was to make a spreadsheet with an ordinal ranking system of my needs and wants. I gave each area a certain amount of points then individually ranked the top contender cars. The TL-S won, the Legacy GT came in second (It was the most tuner friendly, plus AWD and 6MT), the Cadillac CTS-V took third by a nose over the Infiniti G35. This was because not only was it RWD, it was tuner friendly and started with 400 hp and had huge emotional appeal for me. Fortunately this process helped bring me back to reality, a realm that the TL-S rules.
 
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2002 , 2001 Acura TL vrs 2002,2001 BMW 3-Series by ucal
Feb 16, 2008 (8:04 pm)
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I am having difficult time decidind between 02,01 Acura TL and BMW 3 Series.
 
Any advice willbe most welcome.
Regards.
Ucal
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Re: Leasing TL [ursamajor1] by jkisjca
Feb 18, 2008 (7:49 pm)
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Replying to: ursamajor1 (Feb 08, 2008 2:12 pm)

Purchased a 2008 TL with Navi last week from Sunnyvale (CA) Acura in response to an internet quote of $30,997 (incl. dest., but before TTL). This is approx. 3K below dealer's published cost. The salesman told me that they sold it at a loss because they are trying to move their inventory in order to get a larger allocation of the redesigned 2009 TL. Only a handful of their cars were on sale at that price. I was fortunate enough to get the colors I wanted (alabaster silver and taupe).
 
I was very close to settling for a 2008 Accord EX-L, V-6 with Navi (with the rearview camera accessory) at approx. $29,750. For only $1200+ more I decided to get the TL.
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Re: Leasing TL [jkisjca] by jaymk
Feb 18, 2008 (9:20 pm)
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Replying to: jkisjca (Feb 18, 2008 7:49 pm)

Congrats on your new ride and what a deal!!!!!!!!
Enjoy and keep posting.
Thanks
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TL Local Market prices NY NJ (Buyers Market) by gmaroun
Feb 18, 2008 (10:08 pm)
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Hi All,
 
I have secured a deal in NJ.
Lease factor : .00045
Residual : 51 % with 15 k miles
Selling price *35,320 (300 below invoice)
TYPE S model 5spd auto
36 month term
$495 a month includes 7 percent state tax (33 bucks)
No money down,
1200 inception fees.
 
I have montiored the local dealers inventory and notice the type S models are selling more than the Base TL with Navi. This simply means, the mid tier model are not selling well but the type S models will be in limited supply as we reach the 2nd quarter. It is likely there will be an incentive for the leasee...but dont expect 2000 lease cash. At best honda will provide 500 lease cash. However, they can opt to boost the residual rates to bring the lease payment down. I have never seen a lease factor lower than 1 percent with 8 years of leasing experience.
 
Conclusion, if you are in the market to grab a type s, if you wait, you risk of having limited color choices and transmission. If you are in the market for a tl with navi, i suggest to wait it off as it will slightly get better in the form of rebates and there is plenty of supply around NY NJ area.
 
For the lease beginner, you always want to ask for the lease factor. The figure will always be .00*** to calcuate the APY rate just multply lease factor x 2400
 
Why would you want to know this?
Simply to know how much of your money is going to interest.
 
Residual Rate:
This is the buyout cost at the end of the lease. This is viewed differently depending on the circumstances. If the Residual rate is low, the lease payment will inflate. Not good for leasees. However, if you love the car, your buyout is less. Flip it around and its the total opposite.
 
I secured the deal because my hunch is, the type S model will be limited and the rebate will not be much as Honda is expected to inflate the lease factor. In the end, , lease rebates its just a tactic to bring in customers to the showroom. This is pretty much as good as it gets if you ask me.
 
I do not expect the TL type S to be at 51 percent value in the next 3 years. These cars hold their value much higher even when a new model is introduced. Besides, Acura is taking a chance of their styling direction to "stand out" It is a big risk.
 
*Side Note: All acuras have a 3 percent holdback based on the MSRP of the car. When dealers sell the car below invoice, they will always say, they are not making any money. In reality, its not true. They are just willing to chip away from the dealer holdback. This occurs only when dealers are desperate to move their inventory. So for an acura tl type S, the total holdback is $1142 - with this deal they get roughly just 900 bucks profit. (this will be split to sales rep and other Overhead costs) The real profit is likely to be minimal to none. Either way, this is a great deal to the consumer.
-G
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Re: TL Local Market prices NY NJ (Buyers Market) [gmaroun] by mbrowni
Feb 19, 2008 (9:31 am)
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Replying to: gmaroun (Feb 18, 2008 10:08 pm)

Holdback for Acura is 2%, not 3%. Just an FYI.

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