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Replying to: sbonnewcar (Feb 24, 2007 8:32 am) Tell them you want them to match the best price you found and I'm sure they'll bite especially towards the end of the month. Figure out what your tax will be and calculate your out-the-door price. Use that final price to deal.
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Replying to: vicnation (Feb 24, 2007 9:48 am) Sticker for 07 TL Navi $36,795.00 The out the door before sales tax and tags is $35,777.45. This dealer likes to play with the number 7. Then you add sales tax and tag to that number. They also like to play with finance numbers and quote you at a 8.50% rate so the lease looks better even though it has some extra money added into the figure. What is it about some dealers who think you are stupid and can't do simple math. I know how to figure a lease so if they add to the numbers I can find it. Funny thing is they never understand the numbers themselves because the computer did it.
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Replying to: jvette (Feb 24, 2007 10:00 am) |
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Replying to: jvette (Feb 24, 2007 10:00 am) Salespeople like to use a lot of numbers because they know the attrition rate of the customer when more numbers are used. The more numbers are thrown around, the more likely the customer will be willing to cave. At one point in the negotiation, I was tired of haggling with numbers and I had alsready caved some from my set price...we were still $700 apart. During one of the many trips the salesman took to his "manager", I paused and thought, this isn't worth it. I shouldn't be willing to give ground when they are still making a fair profit. When he came back with another unacceptable offer, I told him I was through and walked out. I got back home and called about 5 dealerships I found within 100 miles and told them the price I was willing to pay (which was lower than the set price I originally went into the dealership with). Two of them jumped at it. I took the closer (in distance) of the two. Don't be afraid to walk out and don't get caught in the numbers game...you will lose. It also might do you well to get your financing somewhere else. You can probably find a local credit union that will give you a good rate. |
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Replying to: vicnation (Feb 24, 2007 11:35 am) I am not familiar with the "holdback" concept. Is this like a volume discount for the dealer? What amount is this typically and are the dealers getting it for the typeS also? Great advice on the extended warrantee. Most people don't know that the price is negotiable, so I appreciate you listing the base price. Do you know if these warrantees are transferable if you sell the car? Also, what $ over invoice did you end up paying on your deal (assuming that you're paying full price for the license and doc fees)? Thanks for your help!
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Hey i purchased a new black type-s 6mt. I traded in my 2006 325i - it handles terribly in chicago winterrs and seems to be horsepower and technologically handicapped (i'll probably get lynched by other bmw owners). The handling is pretty good though, and i'm sure a 335i would be much better. It was originally my wifes car. Anyway, I went to two dealers within two days. The first I haggled down to invoice ($35,600 before TTL), however they weren't willing to give me an extra $500 on my trade in value so I bid them farewell. I called a second dealership and told them my situation, and they were much nicer - immediately offered the same invoice price and promised to beat the deal on the trade... I ended up getting $600 extra on the trade. anyway, with the money factor of 0.00137 and resid value of 57% for 15000 miles, the lease deal was too good... Instead of purchasing i leased and my car payments are actually $250 less than what i was paying on the bmw. My monthly is $529.00 with taxes. Acura's leases are excellent (i've leased three cars and have taught many friends about leases).... gap insurance is included, the acquisition fee was built in, no security deposit, and there is a $1500 damage allowance at the end of the lease term . Although bmw does have attractive leases on certain models during certain months, they tend to charge a "MACO" fee, acquisition, and security deposit so your out - the - door payment is still high for a 0 down lease. In the last 3 years I've now have purchased/leased a 2006 g35 coupe 6mt and a 2006 325i. After i've driven the tl type s for awhile I think I might become an expert in the "Entry level sport sedan" forum discussion. All i need is the lexus is 350. Good luck to all that are looking to purchase/lease - if you are looking to lease soon, you should get in on the current lease deals now - you can get a tl type s for possibly less than $500/month with absolutely 0 down, only the first month's payment.
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| I think i just made the previous post, but anyway, i was told by my dealer in chicago that acura has an overabundance of supply of the tl and tl type s cars.... thus the lease and financing incentives. Especially on the type s - not many people, he said, need or want the extra sporty options the tl type s has. I had no problem at all haggling down to invoice on the tl type s at two different dealerships. Its invoice is about 35600 with the destination fee. Hopefully this gives some confidence to people in the market for a tl or tl type s. | |
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Replying to: doccha (Feb 24, 2007 2:46 pm) |
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Replying to: laguy50 (Feb 24, 2007 1:41 pm) The dealership always has to make something on a car. Right now, apart from any other factory to dealer incentives, the dealership receives a 3% of MSRP "holdback fee" from the factory for every unit sold. This is in addition to any profit they may make over the invoice fee. 3% equates to over $1,000. Usually, dealers won't give up anything from their holdback but a few here have been able to dip into that a little. Both Honda and Acura have the 3% holdback fee on all their vehicles so the Type S would be included. The price I was willing to pay included the invoice, doc fees, and the TTL. That gave the dealership a fair profit and I got what I feel was a fair deal. Ultimately, I think I paid $9 over invoice before TTL and doc fee. Others on this site have even done a little better than me. As for the AcuraCare warranties, they are transferrable for a $50 fee. Otherwise, if you sell the vehicle, get in an accident, get rid of it for any reason, or just wish to cancel it, you are entitled to get back the pro-rated balance ...whenever you wish to cancel. I believe you get an initial grace period where you can get 100% back from the warranty should you change your mind after the initial purchase but I'm not sure how long that might be. The cost for the 8 year/120k mile warranty was raised $100 in January to $1,415. They make these periodic adjustments once or twice a year from what I understand. The Finance manager doesn't want you to know that this price is negotiable and they gave me a hard time until they knew I wouldn't budge. $100 profit is better than no profit and it's not like these things are sitting on shelves and taking up inventory space.
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