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Re: Extended warranty and Low Jack [vicnation] by new2cars
Feb 23, 2007 (10:27 am)
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Replying to: vicnation (Feb 22, 2007 6:08 pm)

Hi,
 
Forgive me but like my screen name indicates, I'm new to cars. What is the factory warranty on the nav? So the extended warranty covers the nav? Do extended warranty prices vary from state to state?
 
Vicnation-
Your OTD price is unreal. What state do you live in? I wonder if the dealerships here in So. Cal. will laugh at me if I even ask for that amount.
 
What is a good price for Low Jack?
 
Thanks for everyone's advice!
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Re: Extended warranty and Low Jack [new2cars] by vicnation
Feb 23, 2007 (11:40 am)
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Replying to: new2cars (Feb 23, 2007 10:27 am)

The factory warranty ends at 4 years/50k miles. The extended warranty does cover the nav. It doesn't cover wear items on the car. Extended warranties are not state specific. Any Acura dealership can sell the AcuraCare warranty for any amount they wish. I paid $100 over cost by bringing in an internet quote and having them match it.
 
I live in NC and my local dealership didn't want to work with me at all. I called several other dealerships and asked if they would sell the car for $35,120 OTD and one took me up on it. Funny thing, they had to travel 6 hours with a flatbed to get it because they didn't have the colors I wanted in stock. Dealerships outside of the town you live will be more willing to deal with you because they don't have to pay the advertising costs to get you in the door...especially dealerships in small towns. It's a freebie for them.
 
I didn't haggle at all with them because I didn't want to play the game. The more you talk price with a salesperson, the more likely your set price will go up. It's a game each salesperson learns. I worked at a dealership for many years and know the game.
 
Salespeople are more willing to bend at the end of the month when they are trying to meet their monthly goals. You have to let the dealership make something on the car. I gave them the holdback fee and the doc fees. I figured that was enough profit for them. Others have even done better. Tax here is 3% so take that in consideration. Your tax is probably higher.
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Re: 2007 Acura TL [jvette] by chkntony
Feb 23, 2007 (12:53 pm)
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Replying to: jvette (Feb 23, 2007 9:17 am)

It depends where you buy the car.
I'm here at Maryland, the lowest quote I got was 34,000 +tax. Some dealers I called said they will beat that price.
I'm going into dealer tomorrow, so probably get some more info.
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Achievable? '07 TL base w/ nav in Mass. by sbonnewcar
Feb 24, 2007 (8:32 am)
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Hello- I'm new to this great resource. I've done my research and I'm wondering if this is achievable:
 
Willing to pay: $34,000 (what I'm prepared to offer dealers for haggle-free business)
 
• Excludes MA state tax
• Includes ALL charges & fees:
   o Destination/delivery
   o Documentation (including MA registration & title)
   o Dealer augments
   o Dealer preparation
   o Advertising
   o etc.
 
Also includes these accessories:
 
• Wheel locks
• Splash guards
• All season floor mats
• Trunk tray
 
I believe this to be a fair offer - the dealer will earn full holdback. Accessories + MA reg & title will be a wash.
 
Thanks for your input!
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Re: Achievable? '07 TL base w/ nav in Mass. [sbonnewcar] by vicnation
Feb 24, 2007 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: sbonnewcar (Feb 24, 2007 8:32 am)

You can probably do it with the wheel locks and trunk tray. They will probably add the all season floor mats and the splash guards to the price. Remember, there are two different types of splash guards; painted and black rubber. Painted ones retail for about $135 and the black ones under $100 (prices without installation).
 
Tell them you want them to match the best price you found and I'm sure they'll bite especially towards the end of the month. Figure out what your tax will be and calculate your out-the-door price. Use that final price to deal.
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Re: Achievable? '07 TL base w/ nav in Mass. [vicnation] by jvette
Feb 24, 2007 (10:00 am)
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Replying to: vicnation (Feb 24, 2007 9:48 am)

Here is a break down of my best deal to date. I am still looking because I pretty much got the take or leave it attitude.
Sticker for 07 TL Navi $36,795.00 The out the door before sales tax and tags is $35,777.45. This dealer likes to play with the number 7. Then you add sales tax and tag to that number. They also like to play with finance numbers and quote you at a 8.50% rate so the lease looks better even though it has some extra money added into the figure. What is it about some dealers who think you are stupid and can't do simple math. I know how to figure a lease so if they add to the numbers I can find it. Funny thing is they never understand the numbers themselves because the computer did it.
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Re: Achievable? '07 TL base w/ nav in Mass. [jvette] by abk99
Feb 24, 2007 (10:20 am)
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Replying to: jvette (Feb 24, 2007 10:00 am)

I think you can do better thursday I picked up a 07 Type S with color match splash guards and wheel locks for 35,500. this is before TTL. I had to haggle over the price but did it all via email and phone with 2 dealers. I ended up leasing because the TL lease is really good rigt now, Money factor on 36 month is .00137 I put 0 down extended the miles to 18k a year. Payment is 552 a month. sounds high but remeber the type S is almost a 40k car and I put 0 down and built in 18k mi. Could have got the payment down in the mid 400's if I put down TTL and first months payment. I was told on a lease put down as little as possible.
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Re: Achievable? '07 TL base w/ nav in Mass. [jvette] by vicnation
Feb 24, 2007 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: jvette (Feb 24, 2007 10:00 am)

That's about $2,300 over what I got it for. Always work for the best price on the car, not the monthly payment.
 
Salespeople like to use a lot of numbers because they know the attrition rate of the customer when more numbers are used. The more numbers are thrown around, the more likely the customer will be willing to cave.
 
At one point in the negotiation, I was tired of haggling with numbers and I had alsready caved some from my set price...we were still $700 apart. During one of the many trips the salesman took to his "manager", I paused and thought, this isn't worth it. I shouldn't be willing to give ground when they are still making a fair profit. When he came back with another unacceptable offer, I told him I was through and walked out. I got back home and called about 5 dealerships I found within 100 miles and told them the price I was willing to pay (which was lower than the set price I originally went into the dealership with). Two of them jumped at it. I took the closer (in distance) of the two.
 
Don't be afraid to walk out and don't get caught in the numbers game...you will lose.
 
It also might do you well to get your financing somewhere else. You can probably find a local credit union that will give you a good rate.
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Re: Achievable? '07 TL base w/ nav in Mass. [vicnation] by laguy50
Feb 24, 2007 (1:41 pm)
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Replying to: vicnation (Feb 24, 2007 11:35 am)

Vicnation, around what area do you live? I'm in the market for a TL typeS and am just starting my process. I totally agree with you about the numbers game, but am not sure what $ value above invoice I should be going for. Sounds like you're pretty knowledable about the whole situation so your feedback would be appreciated.
 
I am not familiar with the "holdback" concept. Is this like a volume discount for the dealer? What amount is this typically and are the dealers getting it for the typeS also?
 
Great advice on the extended warrantee. Most people don't know that the price is negotiable, so I appreciate you listing the base price. Do you know if these warrantees are transferable if you sell the car?
 
Also, what $ over invoice did you end up paying on your deal (assuming that you're paying full price for the license and doc fees)?
 
Thanks for your help!
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just purchased a type-s coming from 2006 325i in chicago by doccha
Feb 24, 2007 (2:46 pm)
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Hey i purchased a new black type-s 6mt. I traded in my 2006 325i - it handles terribly in chicago winterrs and seems to be horsepower and technologically handicapped (i'll probably get lynched by other bmw owners). The handling is pretty good though, and i'm sure a 335i would be much better. It was originally my wifes car.
 
 Anyway, I went to two dealers within two days. The first I haggled down to invoice ($35,600 before TTL), however they weren't willing to give me an extra $500 on my trade in value so I bid them farewell. I called a second dealership and told them my situation, and they were much nicer - immediately offered the same invoice price and promised to beat the deal on the trade... I ended up getting $600 extra on the trade.
 
anyway, with the money factor of 0.00137 and resid value of 57% for 15000 miles, the lease deal was too good... Instead of purchasing i leased and my car payments are actually $250 less than what i was paying on the bmw. My monthly is $529.00 with taxes.
 
 Acura's leases are excellent (i've leased three cars and have taught many friends about leases).... gap insurance is included, the acquisition fee was built in, no security deposit, and there is a $1500 damage allowance at the end of the lease term . Although bmw does have attractive leases on certain models during certain months, they tend to charge a "MACO" fee, acquisition, and security deposit so your out - the - door payment is still high for a 0 down lease.
 
In the last 3 years I've now have purchased/leased a 2006 g35 coupe 6mt and a 2006 325i. After i've driven the tl type s for awhile I think I might become an expert in the "Entry level sport sedan" forum discussion. All i need is the lexus is 350.
 
Good luck to all that are looking to purchase/lease - if you are looking to lease soon, you should get in on the current lease deals now - you can get a tl type s for possibly less than $500/month with absolutely 0 down, only the first month's payment.

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