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Bought a new 2006 TL 6MT with Nav NBP exterior/Parchment interior at Vandergriff Acura in Arlington TX for 32,800 plus TTL. Included window tinting, wheel locks, and trunk trays. I was planning on waiting to special order a 2007 TL with these exact features when to my dismay I found out that the manual trans. in the base model would be discontinued. I overpaid probably but I really wanted this particular rare combination of colors and features (manual trans. and Navi). I could have gotten this car in late June for 32,600 from Vandergriff Acura. There is an interesting saga to this. Read the next post for my reprinted letter to the General Manager of David McDavid Acura in Plano, TX. It is a cautionary tale. |
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Below is the letter I wrote to the GM of David McDavid Acura in Plano, TX. All personal names have been replaced with "XXXX": Dear XXXXX: I am writing you to make a complaint about an experience I had with your sales staff. In June I took a test drive with your salesman, XXXX. I no longer have his card and do not remember his last name. He was professional and friendly and informative at the time. In late June I also test drove a 2006 TL at Mac Churchill Acura in Fort Worth, TX. This car had the features and colors I wanted, (Black ext./Parchment int. 6 speed MT with Navigation) and I made them an offer. We were unable to agree to a price, and I decided that I probably would not get the best deal on a car with them. I asked both XXXXX at David McDavid Acura and XXXX at Vandergriff Acura to give me a quote on a car with these specific features and colors. Vandergriff Acura responded within a couple of hours with a decent quote and told me they could acquire the car (presumably from Mac Churchill Acura.) I never heard back from XXXX at McDavid Acura. I agreed to Vandergriff's price and we arranged for me to come down the next morning and give a deposit and have them acquire the car. On my way over to Vandergriff Acura the next morning, XXXX the salesman at your dealership (McDavid Acura) called me and left a message saying that they "had my car" and asked me to "come take a look at it". When I got to Vandergriff Acura , we found out that David McDavid Acura had called MacChurchill Acura and and lied to them, telling them that they had sold the car (even though I had not given McDavid Acura a deposit nor had we discussed or agreed on a price). XXXX or his sales manager had acquired the car from MacChurchill Acura under false pretenses, I suppose in order to force me to come down to your dealership in person, hat in hand, and deal with them on their terms and at their mercy. Your dealership would not release the vehicle to Vandergriff Acura, and as of today, it still sits on your lot since I refused to deal with your staff under these circumstances. I consider the behavior of your sales staff in this instance to be manipulative, unethical, and representative of the tactics that give car dealerships a bad name. I did a lot of research both in test drives of many vehicles and internet research before I decided on this car. The tactics used by the David McDavid sales staff this summer have caused me a great deal of trauma, inconvenience, and money, in what I had hoped would be one of the better experiences of my life: getting a really terrific car. I spoke yesterday to your General Sales Manager XXXX and told him about this incident. Apparently this car has not sold and I made him an offer of $30k, including all fees except TTL. Given what I have experienced with your staff this summer, I would not feel good about buying this car from you at any higher price. I am continuing to look elsewhere for a car in the meantime. XXXX, who referred me to you, assured me of your personal integrity and encouraged me to contact you about this matter. I was unable to reach you in person by phone, and I wanted to write you and let you know what happened at your dealership, and also let you know my feelings on the matter. Thanks for your time and attention. Sincerely, XXXX (David McDavid Acura, to their credit, released the car to Vandergriff Acura this past Wednesday at Vandergriff's, and my, request. I will also say that David McDavid staff was friendly and courteous in their dealings with me on the phone and in person. However, after that above described incident, I would never deal with them again. The General Manager to whom I sent this letter never responded to the above letter, which is why I requested Vandergriff Acura to make another request to trade for this car.) (I also had been posting about what I was doing on this board during my search last June. I suggest that all of you be careful about what you say here because I believe that many car salesmen read this board to find out what their prospects are up to. I had told the original salesman at David McDavid Acura that I read and posted to the Edmunds board. A dumb mistake, I realize in hindsight.) By the way, I love my new car. And I recommend Vandergriff Acura to anyone living in the Dallas/Fort Worth area. They are relatively honest and straightforward and easy to deal with. |
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Replying to: gonein60sec (Sep 15, 2006 9:10 am) agreed to 32K before TTL with HIllside ACura, probably could have gotten same price prior to Sept & the 2.9% , oh well the pice I think is reasonable for our area....im further into suffolk so didnt want to deal with NJ< WEstchester or CT.....got blk.blk w nav/auto for 32K which is still about 800 below invoice so im not too disappointed. the car is actually a gift for my fathers 6oth anyway, not for me, so hopefully Ill have good karme in the end AE9
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A nationwide publication is looking to interview car buyers who were hit with, and noticed, high documentary or paper processing fees from dealerships in the past two years. If you are interested, please send an email to ctalati edmunds.com no later than Wednesday, September 20, 2006 by 2:30 PM PT/5:30 PM ET containing your daytime contact information.
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Replying to: bearavhistory (Sep 14, 2006 8:46 am) Available only to residents of: AK, AL, CA, DE, FL, GA, HI, ID, MD, MT, NC, OR, SC, VA, WA, WV, WY and the District of Columbia* Special AHFC A.P.R. financing available on all new 2006 TL models. 2.9% APR financing for 24-36 months, 4.9% APR financing for 37-60 months available to customers who qualify for the AHFC Super Preferred credit tier. Example for 2006 TL V6 5-Speed Automatic Transmission (Model UA6626JW): 2.9% for 36 months financing at $29.04 a month for every $1,000.00 financed. Dealers set actual vehicle sales prices. See participating dealers for details. For well qualified buyers. Not all buyers may qualify. Higher rates apply for buyers with lower credit ratings. |
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Replying to: bearavhistory (Sep 13, 2006 3:19 pm) Taxes (6.25%) $1,978 Fees and Doc. Fees $272 Total OTD $33,900 This is a white diamond pearl/ parchment interior, automatic w/ navigation system. I will pick it up in Beaumont, Tx (Classic Acura) within the next week(in production now).The price does include a window tint but I am not sure about the wheel locks, tray, and splash guards, hopefully it will come on there but I will be happy either way. Would you consider this a good price?
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For those who are in So CAL. After reading this board for over a month, I bought my TL (08/18) from PLANET ACURA in Downey. I exchanged correspondence with the Internet Sales person and negotiated a price of 30,665. The car is an '06 TL pearl white / parchment / navi, auto. The car had 2.1 miles on it when I picked it up. Production date of 08/06. Drove up from San Diego and picked it up and drove back down. The dealer was EXTREMELY friendly and very accommodating. Added the trunk tray and wheel locks minus the mud guards ( which I bought online from acurapartspeople.com for about 60 bucks and installed myself). 30,665 for the car added 100k warranty and lojack -600 bucks. out the door was just slightly over 35k ( 7.75% tax in ca.) I would reccomend PLANET ACURA to anyone. BTW, over the phone, Tustin was VERY rude even after I expressed my intention to immediately purchase. I called planet, they "unwrapped" the car, detailed it and stayed late on a friday evening to wait for us to arrive. Big Kudos! 
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I am offered a 24 mth lease on Acura TL w/ navi. for 575 per month, with zero down. The residual at the end of 2 years is 23550. Is it a good deal? I am planning to close the deal in 2 days. Anything I should be worried about? Thanks! RND |
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Replying to: mr25boy (Sep 11, 2006 7:17 pm) Grinded them like hell but they finally caved in. sale price was 30181 plus fees = 33,000 that should be the new bench mark for those looking for a TL with Navi in Los Angeles. |
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Replying to: qainspect (Sep 19, 2006 7:02 pm) Hey, Congrats. Which dealer did you get this deal from? Can you send me the breakdown of the $33,000 so I can have that as a bargaining tool when I go in? What color combo did you get? Thanks |
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