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Acura TL Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Where are the colors? by mdhauke
Oct 08, 2009 (6:51 pm)
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I am looking at a 10 TL Manual transmission. What's the deal with the colors? There are only 4 exterior colors to choose from, white, black, gray, and a reddish brown. Are they serious?
 
I put off getting a car for a year because I wanted the new TL in manual transmission. But if those are the colors, I will not be buying an Acura.
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Re: Where are the colors? [mdhauke] by Chasboy
Oct 08, 2009 (9:10 pm)
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Replying to: mdhauke (Oct 08, 2009 6:51 pm)

I have the white and love it. If the grey you mention is the lightest 'silver', it looks real good in person...clean of course.
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Re: To Tech or Not To Tech [Chasboy] by billyperks2
Oct 09, 2009 (7:10 am)
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Replying to: Chasboy (Oct 08, 2009 2:46 pm)

I have the AWD Tech and I have to say that I cannot live without the gizmos.
Backup camera (awesome)
Hard Disk Drive (super awesome)
IPOD hook up (out of this world awesome)
Real time traffic and weather (wicked) but I will not renew after the 3 months trial.
Navigation (my kids favorite)
Voice Command (another of my kid's favorite)
 
I love this car.
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Re: To Tech or Not To Tech [billyperks2] by Chasboy
Oct 09, 2009 (7:50 am)
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Replying to: billyperks2 (Oct 09, 2009 7:10 am)

totally understand. I have a backup camera on my RV. Wish it was color tho'.
So have the 2010's gone up in price?
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Re: To Tech or Not To Tech [mlb11] by m6user
Oct 09, 2009 (7:56 am)
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Replying to: mlb11 (Oct 08, 2009 5:12 pm)

Are you saying that the actual $ value of the vehicle is lower or that the residual % is lower? I would find it hard to believe that a car costing $3k+ more would have be of less value after a 3-4 years. I would believe that a car with more high cost options would lose more of it's original value dollar for dollar after a few years though. It has always been that way.
 
A car with NAV that is say 6-7 yrs old is at that point becoming worrisome as it costs a lot to fix all the tech stuff if it goes bad, costs to update it and it has aged and the people that want tech are looking for currency....not something that old.
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Re: To Tech or Not To Tech [m6user] by mlb11
Oct 09, 2009 (8:33 am)
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Replying to: m6user (Oct 09, 2009 7:56 am)

No, the car w/o tech will not be worth more after 36 months, but as you say, it will be depreciating a bit faster (about 2-4% residual difference) than one without.
 
This makes it more attractive to lease a base b/c its depreciation is less which normally lowers the payment. And at the end of the lease, it puts both the tech and non-tech versions about $1500 a part assuming all else is equal.
 
BTW, the base TL also has voice activation (hands-free link) and full ipod integration. It is missing nav, HDD, keyless entry, and has 2 less speakers (8 versus 10).
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Re: To Tech or Not To Tech [mlb11] by cebteb
Oct 09, 2009 (11:12 am)
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Replying to: mlb11 (Oct 09, 2009 8:33 am)

The residuals are estimates based on recent history (I'm guessing more than just the prior year) and are there to protect Acura and the dealer from any substantial loss on the lease as well as to entice the lessee to consider purchase or lease extension at the end to the term. I'm talking about Blue Book in 3 or 4 years and one's ability in any given market to attract buyers or get a good trade-in offer.
 
Nav and backup cameras seem to have become the items de jour during the past 3 years or so (I'm also old enough to remember when A/C was an extra cost option and folks who saved on the buy tried to fool their neighbors on a hot summer day) and are showing up on just about every vehicle listed over $30K now a days (many mid-$20K MSRP vehicles are getting pushed up to that $30K price point w/ tech packages). Whether they will be as "essential" to the late model used car buyer as A/C and AT in 3 or 4 years is anybody's guess, but following auto reviews and promotions indicates to me that the manufacturers think they are becoming high demand options.
 
Just MHO. I could be wrong, but I wouldn't buy a +$30K entry level luxury car w/o tech unless I was sure I was keeping it 7 to 10 years. BTW, I live in metro-Denver, and while most families own one 4WD truck or AWD SUV here, cars with AWD don't seem to be that big a seller (exception being the Infinity I-35/37 AWD, which seem plentiful here). But, that's just based on observation, I haven't dug into regional sales data for all brands.
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Re: To Tech or Not To Tech [cebteb] by m6user
Oct 09, 2009 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: cebteb (Oct 09, 2009 11:12 am)

(exception being the Infinity I-35/37 AWD,
 
I think you meant the G35/37. They haven't sold the "I" in several years and I don't believe they ever made it in AWD. Anyway, I agree that tech is really getting popular(myself included) and I do like to keep cars 7-9 years. Thats the rub. I'm a little leary of tying up that much cash in tech that may break or become somewhat dated down the road.
 
I'm not all that familiar with leasing but I thought the residual was an estimate on the cars worth at the end of the lease that is used to base payments and price that the car can be purchased for at the end of the lease. How does it function as protection for the dealer/Acura? If it is set too low payments would be high and less competitive, if set too high payments would be low but the dealer could be stuck. If set accurately it would benefit both parties equally I would think.
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Re: To Tech or Not To Tech [cebteb] by mlb11
Oct 09, 2009 (8:22 pm)
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Replying to: cebteb (Oct 09, 2009 11:12 am)

Not sure where you got the info on what a residual is but in my last 4 leases, it has never enticed me to extend my lease or purchase at lease end. If the residual is calculated correctly, then it should be an accurate value of the car at lease end. Because Acura's depreciate less than other brands, their cars typically are worth more than the residual value - so you're better off selling, keeping the positive equity and putting it down on another vehicle.
 
Who knows how valuable the tech package will be - in my experience it is not important when selling however. If you follow auto reviews and promotions to advise you on the importance of the tech package then the marketing is working.
 
Concerning AWD not being popular on cars, do they sell Subarus or Audi Quattros in metro-Denver? They're everywhere in Chicago.
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Oct pricing by acurafan11
Oct 09, 2009 (8:29 pm)
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I finally closed a deal on AWD with Tech for 36700. I got the same price a couple of months back as well but I think its still good . may be they made 400 dollars off me. Keyes in LA was willing to sell it for 36200 but their dealing is very pressurizing and I resent that.
 
Now I can stop researching and enjoy the car. Good Luck with your purchase guys.

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