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To Tech or Not To Tech by cebteb
Oct 08, 2009 (1:32 pm)
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One thing to remember is that these tech packages are one of the big "must haves" with consumers in the new and late model used car market. Tech is like AT was years back, that is, resale value is hurt w/o it. If you plan to keep this new TL for 7 to 10 years, then it won't make much difference. But, if you look to sell or trade this new TL in the first 5 years, then lack of Tech will significantly impact its value compared to other TLs with Tech and other competitors with similar tech packages.
 
OTOH, SHAWD has been getting mixed owner reviews here on Edmunds due to the stiffness of the ride. So SHAWD will have resale value to only a small segment of the market interested in performance or AWD no matter what.
 
Just something to think about.
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Re: To Tech or Not To Tech [cebteb] by Chasboy
Oct 08, 2009 (2:46 pm)
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Replying to: cebteb (Oct 08, 2009 1:32 pm)

Like cebteb, I've seen lots of 'must have' packages/options go down the road over the years. Some last, some die. (I'm so old I remember people without a/c in their cars purposely riding with their windows up in the summer so others would think they had it!).
My BMW was a 325i with a stick shift, not awd. Since I had it for 8 years, the fact that it was not an automatic did not affect its saleability. Condition, service and mileage meant more to prospective buyers.
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Re: To Tech or Not To Tech [cebteb] by mlb11
Oct 08, 2009 (5:12 pm)
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Replying to: cebteb (Oct 08, 2009 1:32 pm)

Not sure I agree with this - if you look at the residuals for leases, the cars with tech packages always have a lower residual than the base models. This is Acura's own research bearing out that the tech package vehicles lose value faster than those without it.
 
In addition, the all-weather performance abilities of the AWD will certainly command a higher value than the FWD base models here in Chicago.
 
I had leased my '07 RDX and when I decided to turn it in 6 months early, I ended up selling it to CarMax who paid it off plus gave me $700. This car was one of the stiffest riding vehicles I've ever owned and it was a base model, but resale value of all Acuras is amazing. The TL will be no different.
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Where are the colors? by mdhauke
Oct 08, 2009 (6:51 pm)
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I am looking at a 10 TL Manual transmission. What's the deal with the colors? There are only 4 exterior colors to choose from, white, black, gray, and a reddish brown. Are they serious?
 
I put off getting a car for a year because I wanted the new TL in manual transmission. But if those are the colors, I will not be buying an Acura.
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Re: Where are the colors? [mdhauke] by Chasboy
Oct 08, 2009 (9:10 pm)
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Replying to: mdhauke (Oct 08, 2009 6:51 pm)

I have the white and love it. If the grey you mention is the lightest 'silver', it looks real good in person...clean of course.
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Re: To Tech or Not To Tech [Chasboy] by billyperks2
Oct 09, 2009 (7:10 am)
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Replying to: Chasboy (Oct 08, 2009 2:46 pm)

I have the AWD Tech and I have to say that I cannot live without the gizmos.
Backup camera (awesome)
Hard Disk Drive (super awesome)
IPOD hook up (out of this world awesome)
Real time traffic and weather (wicked) but I will not renew after the 3 months trial.
Navigation (my kids favorite)
Voice Command (another of my kid's favorite)
 
I love this car.
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Re: To Tech or Not To Tech [billyperks2] by Chasboy
Oct 09, 2009 (7:50 am)
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Replying to: billyperks2 (Oct 09, 2009 7:10 am)

totally understand. I have a backup camera on my RV. Wish it was color tho'.
So have the 2010's gone up in price?
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Re: To Tech or Not To Tech [mlb11] by m6user
Oct 09, 2009 (7:56 am)
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Replying to: mlb11 (Oct 08, 2009 5:12 pm)

Are you saying that the actual $ value of the vehicle is lower or that the residual % is lower? I would find it hard to believe that a car costing $3k+ more would have be of less value after a 3-4 years. I would believe that a car with more high cost options would lose more of it's original value dollar for dollar after a few years though. It has always been that way.
 
A car with NAV that is say 6-7 yrs old is at that point becoming worrisome as it costs a lot to fix all the tech stuff if it goes bad, costs to update it and it has aged and the people that want tech are looking for currency....not something that old.
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Re: To Tech or Not To Tech [m6user] by mlb11
Oct 09, 2009 (8:33 am)
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Replying to: m6user (Oct 09, 2009 7:56 am)

No, the car w/o tech will not be worth more after 36 months, but as you say, it will be depreciating a bit faster (about 2-4% residual difference) than one without.
 
This makes it more attractive to lease a base b/c its depreciation is less which normally lowers the payment. And at the end of the lease, it puts both the tech and non-tech versions about $1500 a part assuming all else is equal.
 
BTW, the base TL also has voice activation (hands-free link) and full ipod integration. It is missing nav, HDD, keyless entry, and has 2 less speakers (8 versus 10).
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Re: To Tech or Not To Tech [mlb11] by cebteb
Oct 09, 2009 (11:12 am)
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Replying to: mlb11 (Oct 09, 2009 8:33 am)

The residuals are estimates based on recent history (I'm guessing more than just the prior year) and are there to protect Acura and the dealer from any substantial loss on the lease as well as to entice the lessee to consider purchase or lease extension at the end to the term. I'm talking about Blue Book in 3 or 4 years and one's ability in any given market to attract buyers or get a good trade-in offer.
 
Nav and backup cameras seem to have become the items de jour during the past 3 years or so (I'm also old enough to remember when A/C was an extra cost option and folks who saved on the buy tried to fool their neighbors on a hot summer day) and are showing up on just about every vehicle listed over $30K now a days (many mid-$20K MSRP vehicles are getting pushed up to that $30K price point w/ tech packages). Whether they will be as "essential" to the late model used car buyer as A/C and AT in 3 or 4 years is anybody's guess, but following auto reviews and promotions indicates to me that the manufacturers think they are becoming high demand options.
 
Just MHO. I could be wrong, but I wouldn't buy a +$30K entry level luxury car w/o tech unless I was sure I was keeping it 7 to 10 years. BTW, I live in metro-Denver, and while most families own one 4WD truck or AWD SUV here, cars with AWD don't seem to be that big a seller (exception being the Infinity I-35/37 AWD, which seem plentiful here). But, that's just based on observation, I haven't dug into regional sales data for all brands.

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