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Re: Question/Statement [bigums]
by msballsitch1
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Jan 15, 2009 (2:30 am)
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Replying to: bigums (Jan 14, 2009 6:39 pm)
Car companies have been making good profits off thier customers for years. Companies who adapt to the changing economy and give thier customers what they want will be just fine. I don't feel sorry for any business that fails to ignore this. The free market will shake out bad businesses. Nobody wants dealers to lose money, we just don't want to be screwed. Acura was willing to negotiate to what I wanted to pay for my car. Lexus would not negotiate so I stayed with Acura. I would not feel sorry for Lexus if they went out of business.
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- #10081 of 10958
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Re: Question/Statement [msballsitch1]
by yehyemyes
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Jan 15, 2009 (6:41 am)
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Replying to: msballsitch1 (Jan 15, 2009 2:30 am)
well said
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- #10082 of 10958
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Re: TMV for 2008 TL base is $25,247. Error? [JimAcura]
by kyfdx HOST
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Jan 15, 2009 (7:45 am)
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Replying to: JimAcura (Jan 14, 2009 6:24 pm)
Did you add options and go to the final page? That's where they add in the destination fee...
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2008 TL W/ NAV
by crispybear
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Jan 15, 2009 (11:19 am)
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FYI
I just picked up a new 2008 TL w/ NAV for $29,600 in Southern California. The dealer threw in the wheel locks, floor mats, and mud flaps for free.
Out the door was $32,414.
There aren't many left at all. There were only 2 left at the dealer I bought it from: one white and one black.
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Re: Question/Statement [msballsitch1]
by bigums
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Jan 15, 2009 (11:10 pm)
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Replying to: msballsitch1 (Jan 15, 2009 2:30 am)
I don't disagree that there has to be some adapting to the current market conditions and I'm sure that a lot of dealerships are doing their best to stay afloat. My point is that we as consumers should consider that beating the dealership's brains in because we think we can take advantage of them in a recession like this is like kicking a dog when it's down. I'm not a big fan of car dealers per se, but as this "shakes out" it just may be the good guys that lose out and wind up closing. We as consumers will be left to deal with whatever/whoever is remaining. Good, Bad, or Indifferent
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Re: Question/Statement [bigums]
by drtravel
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Jan 17, 2009 (10:55 am)
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Replying to: bigums (Jan 15, 2009 11:10 pm)
My point is that we as consumers should consider that beating the dealership's brains in because we think we can take advantage of them in a recession like this is like kicking a dog when it's down
Didn't dealers take advantage of us when THEY were in the drivers seat? Adding high-priced dealer installed options (pure profit), adding market adjustments for in-demand cars (more pure profit), and giving us unfair trade-ins (even more dealer profit)? Supply and demand works both ways.
If you are extra nice to a dealer now - in three years when things turn around, will they remember this and treat you extra nice?
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Any 2008 TL in Houston, Dallas, Austin, San antonio
by Acuratexan
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Jan 17, 2009 (6:40 pm)
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Will begin calling dealers in those cities Monday. Hoping to find a 2008 TL with or without Navi. Anybody seen any? Best deals?
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Re: TMV for 2008 TL base is $25,247. Error? [JimAcura]
by crispybear
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Jan 17, 2009 (7:29 pm)
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Replying to: JimAcura (Jan 14, 2009 6:24 pm)
I agree. I'm not sure how accurate this price is. After searching Southern California extensively, the lowest I can get was $29,600 for a white 2008 TL w/NAV.
Another problem is that there is just no inventory left. About half the dealers I contacted had no 2008's left.
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Re: TMV for 2008 TL base is $25,247. Error? [crispybear]
by yehyemyes
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Jan 17, 2009 (10:28 pm)
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Replying to: crispybear (Jan 17, 2009 7:29 pm)
that's a good price for a NAV model. Anyone have any idea about TL leftovers and price in PA, NJ, DC area.
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