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| Is $26500 a good price for 2003 TL?? | |
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DJDEZ, Can you tell give me the name of a dealership please. I'm in Michigan and the dealers here are still staying $500 over invoice. I'm willing to travel a bit, especially for $1000 UNDER. Thanks cj |
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Couldn't be true. The dealer holdback on Acura is either 2% or 3%. At $1,000 under invoice they'd be selling the car at a loss. Maybe it was $1,000 under invoice but + $500 in junk fees + another $500 in markup on accessories. This I would believe.
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I apologize to everyone for my error. In my excitement of purchasing the 03 TLS, I typed in $23,500 and should have been $29,500.00. I apologize again for the error. In Iowa, between the burp of Hamburg and Rt 2, (I29)there is a great stretch to lay the ears back. The speedo read 135 before I backed off and the wind noise was really low. With the big dig in Boston, I can't see how anyone can get up to 60 much less 70 or 80. Once again my apologies to all but, I love this car.... |
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Thank you all so much, your advice has been very helpful. I'm about to wrap up my deal on an 03 TLS. I'm getting conflicting stories from 2 dealers. (I'm sure this shocks everyone here) Anyway, can someone tell me what the real non-negotiable fees are? I'm sure some of you think you didn't pay acquisition fees, or documentation fees, but they were rolled in somewhere right? Or am I wrong? One dealer tells me acqu. fee is $550, the other says $525. One tells me security deposit rounded up to nearest $50 the other says nearest $25. One tells me documentation fee of $160 is "state law". They both tell me that their advertising fee is non-negotiable. This I really don't understand. Isn't advertising under "the cost of doing business catagory?" I advertise for my business too, but I don't tell my patients that I'm tacking on an extra $400 for my ad in last week's newspaper. Any help would be greatly appreciated. The only fee I trust so far is tax, and plates because I know sales tax must be paid. These others just seem like miscellaneous additions. When the dealer says they are non-negotiable, can I tell him that's not true? Are these fees the same nationwide? Can anything be waived? I mean truely waived not just dropping the price and adding them back under another catagory. Thanks board cj |
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| and my sister bought her TL-S w/nav for $31,000 which also includes rear spoiler, mud guards, and free oil changes for life. That was in March. | |
| How does she like the car after 5 months? Has she had any problems? How about mpg? If she had to do it over again, would she buy the TL? | |
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cjfairman, check out the discussions on our Smart Shopper board for some thoughts. Lots of folks say just negotiate the OTD (out the door) price and don't worry about the fees. Good luck! |
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Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. But, I still think you can get a BETTER deal than what you are being offered. Remember, even if dealers sell AT INVOICE, you are still giving the dealer around $900 in profit (based on the holdback). I can break down the lease fees for you, since we just completed a lease a few weeks ago. - The $550 bank fee is the STANDARD AHFC fee. The $525 must have been another bank, or someone was just lying to you. We had the bank fee rolled into the monthly payment - so it became part of the 'adjusted cap cost'. - The Security Deposit CAN vary, but ours was $350 - however, we chose the slightly higher money factor which WAIVED the Security Deposit .. standard money factor for this GREAT subsidized lease was .00092 - we used .00102 in order to waive the security deposit. This actually saved around $190, but of course, you DON'T get it back at the end of the lease -- whereas, you'd get the $350 back, hopefully! - Doc fees are BULL no matter what ... only a few states have the fee amount set as a 'LAW' -- perhaps yours is one of them .. but I've seen them vary from anywhere from $45 to over $200 !!! Ours was $135, I bitched about it, they agreed it's high, but EVERYONE pays it .. it's about $25 AT MAX, worth of paperwork !! I still don't know HOW they come to a figure for this. - Advertising fees are another LOAD OF CRAP ! YOU, the consumer should NOT have to pay for a dealership's advertising fees. We did NOT pay those fees! Your analogy holds true. The only thing we had to pay UP FRONT, was the First Month's payment, Tax, Title & License fees, and that ridiculous Doc fee .. for a total of around $650 due at signing -- a pretty good deal ! Regarding the cars being $1000 UNDER invoice, you MAY only see that on the Type-S .. as there are MORE of these on lots than the standard TL (TL-P) ... But, we WERE able to get a deal of around $500 BELOW invoice on my a standard TL, and we thought that was a great deal ! I'm sure by the end of this month, you will STILL see some TL-S's and maybe even a few standard TL's on dealer's lots ... If one has BEEN there for a while, they may be getting some kind of incentive to MOVE IT OFF THE LOT -- this is the car you'd want to make a deal on. But, getting the car at TRUE dealer cost should NOT be out of the question - especially with all the $$$ that's being made on TSX's and MDX's right now ! Don't budge off your offer, especially with the NEW TL's coming out real soon. Even AT Invoice, it's a GREAT car for the $$$ -- but you CAN get it BELOW if you try hard enough ! If you want to travel a bit, Turnersville Auto Complex is the place to go - it's located in NJ .. check the website - www.turnersvilleautocomplex.com and ask for CAROLYN in the internet sales dept !!! I know Acura is still offering the 2.9% financing on this car, but I am NOT positive about the LEASE deal .. it's no longer on Acura's website as it expired on July 31st, yet people are saying that you can STILL do this lease deal, so maybe someone else (Car_Man) can let you know !!! Good luck ! |
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Thank you DJ. You pretty much confirmed what I was thinking on the TL-S. The one I want has been on the lot for a couple of months now. What is funny is when we sat down and the dealer added up all of his fees, another fee I forgot to mention was the protection package $250.00. When the saleman was telling me about the car he mentioned that all of their Acuras "come with" the protection package. When the manager tried to add that to the price I said your salesman said it comes with and there isn't anything on the sticker saying it was an add on. Well guess what when i went back Sunday to see if my car was still there, there was an addendum sticker next to the sticker that listed the protection package for $250. Evidently Acuras that sit on the lot go up in price in Michigan. If I wait long enough I might be paying $32k for this car. What a joke. I wonder if Acura regulates this sort of activity? I think I've run across a shady dealership to say the least. Thanks again for your help. CJ
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