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Suggestons from Mazda Tribute online buying exp by bubblehead
Aug 20, 2005 (3:25 pm)
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This is the first car I’ve purchased since getting my internet connection in 1998 and my take on online car buying is:
 
If you want the lowest price you need to know beforehand EXACTLY what you want and let the dealer know you’re ready buy NOW; don’t ask for three demo drives in the same car, wait for weeks to decide and then expect a great price. My philosophy is that if you find a fair salesman/dealer then treat them fairly as well.
 
Most so-called online salesmen I encountered were basically unresponsive and treated an online inquiry as a lead to be reeled into the dealership. Despite their manufacturer and dealership web sites inviting you to “request an online quote on this vehicle”, most of them won’t do it and will send back some line like “you need to come in so we can assess your needs properly.” I decided to just ignore them and move on to other dealer sites.
 
Except for the internet manager I purchased from (who provided detailed, specific answers to all my questions) everyone else, including Mercury’s so-called Online Concierge, simply ignored questions I asked re maintenance costs, the benefits of certain options, etc. My experience, and I’ve been both a business owner and salesman, is that most salespeople, online or otherwise, are too lazy to work for a sale with a customer who wants to know more than is in the brochure.
 
I found it incredibly useful to check (and even track over a couple or three weeks) the dealer’s actual online inventory. Not only could I tell if they had one equipped as I wanted – and even some large dealers didn’t; all of theirs were “loaded” – but I could gage by the size of inventory on a particular model and by tracking it over a couple of weeks how badly the dealer might want to get a particular car off their lot. One so-called internet sales manager – who refused to quote a price on a particular VIN - went on about how hard it would be to get the model I wanted while this jerk’s online inventory showed a large and growing inventory and the manufacturer is rebating them.
 
I got an excellent online quote on a Mercury Mariner BUT using the online inventory I leraned there are no remaining 2005 Mariners equipped as I like anywhere in the state. I would have to order a 2006 (also a very fair online price but still higher than a 2005 and I would have to wait six weeks and I wanted the new car for a month-long “safari” in September).
 
I hope everyone uses internet resources responsibly – i.e., if an internet dealer is treating you well don’t try to bust his chops – so that courteous, informed online buyers continue to make good transactions at the expense of salesmen and dealers who “don’t get it.”
 
On, no! I just realized that if I keep buying cars online I’ll never have a chance to get the free balloons and hot dogs some dealers still use to lure in suckers or visit another "tent sale"...
#197 of 346
Re: Suggestons from Mazda Tribute online buying exp [bubblehead] by turtoni
Aug 26, 2005 (5:19 pm)
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Replying to: bubblehead (Aug 20, 2005 3:25 pm)

nice posts bubblehead. i enjoyed reading them.
 
turtoni
 
PS - i paid 18K + TTL for a new 2005 Tribute 4WD i with cruise control.
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Re: Suggestons from Mazda Tribute online buying exp [turtoni] by tenebros
Sep 01, 2005 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: turtoni (Aug 26, 2005 5:19 pm)

Took 8 hours at the dealership to work the numbers, but I think I got a good deal.
 
2005 Mazda Tribute
 
List: 28,900
Automatic Discount 2000
Minus 3000 in rebates
Minus 1000 Mazda finance (must use for a minimum of 3 months)
Base total = 22900
Minus 600 manager reduction
 
Trade in had been valued by other dealers at 7 to 9k. They gave me 10000 sight unseen for a trade in. Tax savings of about 700 for the trade in.
 
Total = 11600 +tax+tag transfer+title
 
Tribute has package 3 w/leather, V6, automatic, side air bags, wind delflectors, Moonroof with wind deflector, Side Step tubes, Heated seats and mirrors, Wheel Locks, nicer rims then the other tributes on the lot, rear bumper plate, cargo net, and me in the driver seat.
 
Will refinance after 3rd payment to mazda to drop the interest rate and save montly.
 
Dealer tells me he lost money on the deal - but I can't imagine that to be true. Even if he did - the car is a year old and now he can place a 2006 on his lot.
 
Thoughts on this deal?
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tennebros by audia8q
Sep 01, 2005 (7:50 am)
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Took 8 hours at the dealership to work the numbers
 
8 hours???? if you walked into my dealership and offered me your numbers the deal would have been done in 10 minutes. That includes 5 minutes looking for a pen.
 
You did fine....but 8 hours??
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Re: tennebros [audia8q] by tenebros
Sep 01, 2005 (8:04 am)
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Replying to: audia8q (Sep 01, 2005 7:50 am)

In the market for a Mazda 3 now - wouldn't happen to be in central Florida would you?
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Re: tennebros [tenebros] by kyfdx HOST
Sep 01, 2005 (8:09 am)
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Replying to: tenebros (Sep 01, 2005 8:04 am)

He isn't... and if he were, he couldn't solicit for business on this board..
 
  audia8q is a valued member of our Town Hall community, and is here to help answer your questions and participate in the discussion...
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: tennebros [kyfdx] by tenebros
Sep 01, 2005 (8:25 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Sep 01, 2005 8:09 am)

He isn't... and if he were, he couldn't solicit for business on this board..
 
It was a joke, take it as such. Did you notice the wink?
 
Does everyone have to be so literal that we forget how to enjoy ourselves?
 
Don't bother answering those questions. But take a chill pill.
#203 of 346
Re: tennebros [tenebros] by kyfdx HOST
Sep 01, 2005 (8:29 am)
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Replying to: tenebros (Sep 01, 2005 8:25 am)

Replies aren't just for your benefit....
 
Newer members may be unaware of the rules...
 
regards,
KYFDX
(chilling)
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tenebros by audia8q
Sep 01, 2005 (1:17 pm)
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There are a few decent Mazda dealers in your area....before you go, get a referral from somebody who recently purcahsed a car from the dealership. Going in with a referral is always better than going in blind.
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RE: HOW DID I DO $$$$ ???2006 MAZDA TRIBUTE by realsales
Sep 23, 2005 (7:50 pm)
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2006 MAZDA TRIBUTE S 2WD 6CYL 3PK , PACKAGE III!! LIST PRICE $27,745. DEALERS PRICE $25,961. I PAID $23,700. DID I DO OK?? HAS ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES!! LEATHER, 6 CD CHANGER, SUN-ROOF, SIDE AIR-BAGS. I HAD A 2001 FOR ESCAPE ( LOVED IT!! ) TRANNY BLEW OUT AFTER 130,000 MILES.ONLY DISAPPOINTMENT IS THE RIDE/SPEED/ GAS MILAGE /HANDLING IS EXACTLY THE SAME!! SECOND GUESSING NYSELF FOR NOT GOING AFTER A NISSAN X-TERRA!! COMMENTS WELCOMED!!

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