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Re: '05 Tribute 5 speed, 4 cyl, FWD [rcinmd] by tidester HOST
Feb 02, 2005 (8:41 pm)
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Replying to: rcinmd (Feb 02, 2005 2:05 pm)

I wouldn't think gas mileage would be a concern to you with only 300 miles in two months (works out to 1,800 miles per year). In any case, you should take performance issues over to the Mazda Tribute discussion.
 
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Re: 2005 tribute rebates/incentivesw.... [huskerdoo1] by texas_ford_guy
Feb 03, 2005 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: huskerdoo1 (Feb 02, 2005 11:06 am)

heres what you should do.....
buy the car with mazda financing and take the full rebates. as soon as you get your payment book, call mazda for the payoff. refinance at whatever bank or credit union offers you the best rate, and pay off the original loan. there will be no penalty for early payment of the original simple interest loan. it will have cost you about a months worth of interest on the original amount financed, but should still save you enough money to be worth the effort. most banks and credit unions will allow you 90 days to do this after the purchase.
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Re: '05 Tribute 5 speed, 4 cyl, FWD [lothar23] by texas_ford_guy
Feb 03, 2005 (9:55 am)
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Replying to: lothar23 (Jan 20, 2005 2:18 pm)

usually, with any kind of new vehicle, it will never get near the highway mpg listed on the sticker until the engin is broken in. usually, you will see mpg rise once you have put about 5000 miles on it.
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Re: '05 Tribute 5 speed, 4 cyl, FWD [tidester] by rcinmd
Feb 07, 2005 (10:01 am)
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Replying to: tidester (Feb 02, 2005 8:41 pm)

Heck, I am just letting the Tribute sit while racking up miles on the Honda until I sell the Accord. I average somewhere around 12,000 miles per year, maybe a bit more. I sure don't expect with these temps, and my short drives to realize yet what the vehicle will do gas mileage wise, but I have an idea that once I start using it 'normally', I may see 22 around town, and hopefully push the upper 20s on a long trip, though that might be asking a bit much. I had a Nisan Pathfinder that did 20 mpg from new till trade-in, a Civic that realized 38 mpg on the highway from new till sale, and the Accord has done 34 mpg consistently to this point. So it seems that the rating of 22 / 26 for the Tribute should be accurate. It is those owners of the V6 who seem to miss the mark significantly.
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internet buying???? by huskerdoo1
Feb 07, 2005 (12:29 pm)
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Ok, I have bought a few cars but never over the internet. I have been reading about this here on Edmunds. How did you guys begin negotiating? I have contacted a local dealer through their web site but all that has been talked about is when I plan on buying and that there are current incentives of up to 3500 (of which Edmunds says there is another 500 cash to dealer as well). Did you just say what is your best offer for 05Tribute with X packages and add ons then deal down from there? Did you or did they quote the first price? Was it asked for or did they volunteer it? Did they ask about a trade in prior to completeing the new car pricing? If so did you say no or yes to that. Please if anyone could outline the course or a typical course of advancement for me. I am excited to try this new phenomina and not dealing with the dealership in person until I have to sign papers. Did you get prequalified as well?
 
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Re: internet buying???? [huskerdoo1] by dc_driver
Feb 07, 2005 (1:09 pm)
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Replying to: huskerdoo1 (Feb 07, 2005 12:29 pm)

Here is what I did:
Sent an email to about five local dealers with the vehicle that I wanted plus all the options I was looking for. I also gave them a preference on color (I actually liked three different colors on the Tribute, so this opened up more bargaining options). After I listed what I wanted I told them to email me with their best offer, and that I wanted to purchase immediately (this is key!).
 
Got back 4 responses within less than 8 hours:
1 for 24K
2 between 22,500 and 23,500
1 for 21,888!
 
Obviously I choose the dealer that offered 21,888 (or about $500 under plus $4K in rebates). I have bought three cars in this fashion, and really prefer it. A few other tricks are to look at the end of the month (some dealers are willing to further reduce prices to hit their goals), and make sure you do your homework on invoice prices. Also, you have to make it clear that you are serious and want to do the deal ASAP. If you tell the dealer you are just looking, you will not get as competitive a quote. Also, make sure you ask them for all of their fees too!
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Re: internet buying???? [dc_driver] by huskerdoo1
Feb 12, 2005 (6:18 am)
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Replying to: dc_driver (Feb 07, 2005 1:09 pm)

Hi,
 
So you bought it new for about 17900? Wow! Which would you buy and why? Tribute or Escape?
 
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Re: internet buying???? [huskerdoo1] by dc_driver
Feb 12, 2005 (10:15 am)
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Replying to: huskerdoo1 (Feb 12, 2005 6:18 am)

Sorry, I am not sure that I was clear. I got my Tribute for 21,888 (the Edmunds invoice price with rebates is 22,900 (including rebates, excluding destination and ttl).
 
I think deciding between the Escape and Tribute (and now the Mercury Mariner) is really a personal choice, but here is why I picked the Tribute over the Escape:
- Price. The loaded Tribute I bought was a few thousand dollars cheaper than a similarly equipped Escape. Mazda had better rebates at time of purchase vs. Ford.
- Handling/performance. Mazda engineers tweaked the Tribute and made it a little tighter (handling), and geared it to make it a little quicker. But the Escape is great too, so this fairly minor. I just liked the way Tribute drove and vs. the Escape.
- Warranty. The Tribute has a better warranty (4yr/50K vs. 3yr/36K for the Ford). This is a no brainer! Also, Mazda gives a loaner car for any warranty work that is being done. This was a nice plus for me after owning a problematic Volkswagen and being left stranded to find rides on numerous occasions.
- Interior. It may just be me, but I thought the overall fit and finish on the Tribute were better than the Escape. I love the heated leather seats in the Tribute! They are so comfortable.
 
I think that exterior styling is a toss-up. I liked them both, but actually think the Mariner had an advantage. I did not test drive a Mariner, but I am almost sure that I still would have bought the Tribute. I really love this vehicle, and highly recommend it. You get a lot of bang for your buck!
 
Good luck, and let us know what you decide on..
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Re: internet buying???? [dc_driver] by huskerdoo1
Feb 17, 2005 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: dc_driver (Feb 12, 2005 10:15 am)

ok,
 
Contacted 1 dealer because they advertised below invoice pricing plus you get the rebates. His invoice pricing was 1000 more than the Edmunds and NADA. He specifically named Edmunds as a non-affiliated non-manufacture source, which is true. I guess that I am misunderstanding the Invoice price posted on these web sites. I took them as they are factual and true, procured from the manufactures. Well, lets see what happens, I will stand tall before the man and negotiate with the info I have.
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Re: internet buying???? [huskerdoo1] by snowman
Feb 17, 2005 (8:54 pm)
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Replying to: huskerdoo1 (Feb 17, 2005 11:14 am)

Unfortunately, invoice price concept lost its value. Looks like every site has different invoice price. Dealers, of course, developed their own defence mechanism against internet invoice pricing...So my point is how do you know which invoice price is the real invoice price....
 
Edmunds invoice doesn't cover some fees and advertising expenses so dealer invoice is actualy higher than what Edmunds publishes.

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