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#5 of 14 My first week
Jul 09, 2003 (11:21 pm)
I had used a well known teflon paint sealant in another discussion.
Like I said, the shine is about the same. The surface is incredibly smooth.
After driving long distance, the bugs washed off just with the rain!
I don't know about durability. But so far so good.
#6 of 14 is there another Teflon discussion?
Jul 10, 2003 (5:20 am)
Especially a "well known" one? I've been here for 3+ years and am not aware of a well known Teflon paint sealant discussion. Do tell.
Jul 10, 2003 (10:33 am)
yeah, well if I may chime in here with data from the front lines, my bugs wash off easily too without teflon or wax or anything. Water is really great stuff.
In my opinion, waxes and sealants are good for one thing--GLAMOUR. They make a car look extra nice but they don't "protect" anything in any substantial or time-effective way.
Again, I am talking about modern paintwork and modern methods of car production.
#8 of 14 Paint sealant
Jul 29, 2003 (8:48 am)
Mr Shiftright, if a car looks extra nice after years of use, that suits me fine. The question is does it protect the appearance. I remember using paint sealant on my G20 ten years back. I remember the car looking in pristine condition when I sold it 3.5 years later. I did not opt for a selant for my I30t that I bought later but felt that the color looked faded with age. May be it is my imagination or perhaps the darker color of I30 has something to do with it. Is there any scientific evidence or discussion on this?
#9 of 14 I rather doubt it
Aug 08, 2003 (7:08 pm)
if you consider "scientific evidence" as a properly randomized, correctly designed experiment with only one variable separating several fleets of vehicles with a large enough sample to be statistically significant (say, 447 cars per fleet for a four-nines level of significance)... run for long enough to be significant (say, three years)... with a separate study for each material difference in paint chemistry and application... then, no, there ain't one, and there ain't gonna be one.
anecdotal evidence ("It has took that itch away from me!" -- Mrs. J. B., Gutshot, AK) does not qualify, even if it comes from somebody you might think is a scientist type ("I can eat anything again!" -- Dr. I. P., Tech Area 51).
Aug 18, 2003 (11:40 am)
IMO 3.5 years is too short a period to measure. And beyond that, I don't see how any coating or protective film could manage to stay on the car.
#11 of 14 if it's atomically bonded to the paint, it will. these aren't
Aug 18, 2003 (5:10 pm)
so they won't. it's fancy wax. put on like wax, and lasts like wax.
you could theoretically make Teflon beer, too, but likely the only results would be you get the runs faster with it
#12 of 14 Not teflon but...
Aug 19, 2003 (12:12 pm)
Has anyone tried 5 Star Shine, LustreLab LXR or nu finish, they all claim to last years instead of a month.
#13 of 14 Auto Armor Paint Protection
Aug 20, 2003 (8:07 am)
When I purchased my 2003 4Runner Limited (Stratosphere Mica - Blue) back in May, I had the dealer apply a product called "Auto Armor Paint Protector". It is the iniital application in what they call "Auto Armor Environmental Maintenance System".
I have a bottle of Auto Armor Paint Protection Cleaner / Renewer which the dealer gave to me to apply every 6 months. The question I have is what is it, what does it do, and does this take place of waxing. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
Aug 20, 2003 (11:02 am)
Essentially this is a polymer paint sealant that takes the place of traditional car wax. It does the same basic job but is more durable and offers better protection. There are a number of products like this on the market, most being marketed to car enthusiasts instead of the general public.
The "renewer" product you have is probably identical to the product the dealer applied to your paint. The best polymer sealants out there last about 6 months, most less than that. You can probably apply it sooner than 6 months if you want more protection and a better shine.