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Toyota 4Runner, Engine, Exhaust, Fuel System, SUV
#733 of 874 2004 4Runner SR 5 V8
Oct 13, 2004 (1:42 pm)
I have filed the Lemon Law in the state of Florida because of the sulfur smell inside my vehicle. Toyota replaced my catalyst converter because I had the sulfur smell at low speed. It was replaced on 6-24-04 on a TSB EG020-04. I still have the smell inside the vehicle when I accelerate to a high speed and then let off on the accelerator and come to a steady speed. In about 15-20 seconds the cab fills with exhaust.
The sulfur smell is carbon monoxide. Carbon monoxide is odorless, the sulfur smell is a detection warning of carbon monoxide inside the vehicle, not outside, where it belongs. I have had the vehicle back to the dealer three more times to fix this problem, to no avail. Following the lemon law procedure, my first arbitration was denied, based soley on a road test. I had used their recommended fuel and it had helped, but not solved, the problem. During arbitration Toyota recommends only BP Amoco gasoline to help with the sulfer smell. They acknowledge that it's a fuel problem. They are asking me to mask the detection smell that warns me of the presence of carbon monoxide inside the vehicle. At the end of arbitration Toyota told me that other manufacturers are experiencing the same problem. The arbitration company's is NCDS (National Center for Dispute Settlement), which is hired by Toyota. Now the office of the Attorney General takes over for a new arbitration hearing. This is a very serious health hazard.......I will keep you posted.
#734 of 874 2004 4Runner SR5 V8
Oct 13, 2004 (1:55 pm)
There is a way to help our cause. Read the lemon law For your state and file your case.It does not cost a dime.
#735 of 874 Re: 2004 4Runner SR 5 V8 [lear02]
Oct 13, 2004 (7:49 pm)
That's a good idea if Toyota Motor Co. is not aware on this issue. This is absolutely health hazzard. Please keep posted the result.
Oct 14, 2004 (8:36 am)
I don't understand at this point how your car can be filling with carbon monoxide (even though I certainly believe that your car stinks inside) without you being too dead to post, or, if not, at least seriously impaired with typical CO poisoning symptoms.
How have you determined that you have CO in your car's interior?
The reason I ask is because that's a pretty startling claim and should therefore have startling evidence.
#737 of 874 Stinky exhaust health hazard?
Oct 14, 2004 (8:44 am)
Well, maybe not. I won't consume bandwidth by recapping all the previous discussions here, but would encourage anybody who cares to read extensively in this discussion.
In summary, today's engines burn so clean that the old carbon monoxide problem (due to incomplete combustion) doesn't usually exist. It's a stink nuisance and would probably be improved if Toyota went back to the side-firing exhaust they used to use. Stink is probably coming from the rear cabin exhausts, so you can often avoid the stink by simply leaving the system on fresh (rather than recirculate) and having the fan on at least the low setting.
If the stink is a problem, get the TSB(s) and keep leaning on your dealer and, by all means, complain to Toyota too. This kind of thing shouldn't be happening, but it's not unique to the 4Runner or to Toyota.
#738 of 874 And close your rear window!!!
Oct 14, 2004 (8:57 am)
#739 of 874 Re: [Mr_Shiftright]
Oct 14, 2004 (12:00 pm)
The sulfur smell tells you that there is exhaust fumes entering the car.The exhaust is carbon monoxide . No matter how you look at it exhaust does not belong inside the car. And changing from one make of fuel to another is not the answer.
Oct 15, 2004 (12:54 pm)
All true but I don't see how you could have any appreciable amount of carbon monoxide in your truck. What I'm driving at here is that this claim substantially diminishes your credibility in an arbitration, since if you were breathing carbon monoxide in any harmful array you would be very sick indeed. We all breath a bit of CO every day of our lives unless we are really living in the woods or something.
So I am suggesting you drop that one and stick to the obnoxious odor as being very annoying rather than life-threatening.
#741 of 874 Re: [Mr_Shiftright]
Oct 15, 2004 (2:51 pm)
Suggestion well taken.I know that you know the obnoxious odor is from the exhaust system. If the CO content is 1% and 99% other gases thats still an extremely unhealthy environment to be driving in every day. Toyota knows it has a problem. They do not know how to come to terms with it. Maybe do to cost? This may become a class action suit time will tell. We all have big money invested in our cars and we deserve the best ride we can get.The one thing to remember here is the exhaust is getting in side the vehicle.
#742 of 874 I've been involved
Oct 15, 2004 (3:44 pm)
in class-action evaluation on this, and after testing, we determined that there's no more noxious emissions in a new 4Runner than in several other vehicles tested. Comparitively, when tested by itself (4 vehicles), they were 70-80% less in cabin emissions, driving by themselves on deserted roads, than just driving the vehicle in normal traffic.
If you can't tell, I'm NOT a "sky is falling, let's sue everybody" advocate. We have become a country of victims and plaintiffs instead of men, women, and consumers.