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Toyota, Toyota Camry Solara, Coupe, Convertible
#633 of 672 ES330 and Solara
Dec 09, 2003 (8:46 pm)
For what I know, the material is super in ES330, great in Solara and very good in Camry. The difference is the quality of the material used. It's always debatable if one should spend more for upscale if both perform similar. ES330 do provide some extra features only available to Lexus. It's you to justify if you willing to acquire them. ES, like other Lexus, has better insulation and seat compare to Toyota sibling. And it emphasis on comfort than drive. Solara is more tuned at the middle of ES330 and IS300. I like both but lean neither one. So Solara is perfect for my need. Drive both if you can and make decision. I agree though, functionality are the same. Others are your taste.
Dec 10, 2003 (6:12 am)
Since the ES330 is a SEDAN, anf the Solara is a COUPE, there is no real comparison, and probably no cross-shopping.
Several magazine road tests have referred to the Solara as the Lexus of coupes.
We are delighed with our new SLE after the fitst 3,000 miles.
Dec 10, 2003 (10:59 am)
Add me to the list of people that have an 04 Solara v6 SLE that pulls to the left. Seems to be a little intermittent. Notice it more at low and high speeds and not during acceleration. I am assuming that under acceleration, torque steer pulls the car right, balancing everything out. Dealer says they can not duplicate problem. Not happy with that situation. Transmission seems to slip on occasion too. Mostly at low speeds with partial throttle. Again, dealer "can't duplicate" Anyone get the XM radio installed? I am being quoted $778, which seems awful steep. Am starting to think I should have purchased the Accord. Would have if not for the comfort of the Solara.
Dec 10, 2003 (12:33 pm)
I feel your frustration... this is the issues we have to deal with when new cars come out. Nothing is perfect (although we want it to be). I'm just glad that the ONLY thing I'm dealing with is a slight pull to the left. Could your tranny slip just be the electronic response in the throttle? I believe someone said it was meant to delay a little to help with gas mileage and emissions (or something like that). I orginally thought my car had the same issue (I moved down ALOT in power from a modified Grand Prix), but I just had to get used to working with this new throttle.
Not a big fan of radio so I can't help you with prices but it does sound steep to me...
#637 of 672 Left Pull TSB Now Forthcoming
Dec 10, 2003 (2:03 pm)
The mechanic at my dealership came up with some rather large news. He talked with the Toyota Canada head office and said that Toyota engineering in Japan has now stepped in and given the left drift problem a "Priority 1" designation.
They have designated an exclusive Japanese engineering team to work on the fix and are now working on it with great urgency because it is a steering safety issue (liability). Apparently, thousands of vehicles are affected.
When they come up with the final fix (1-2 months approximately), they will issue a TSB, at which point our left leaners will be immediately called in for repairs.
Dec 17, 2003 (11:28 am)
I just bought my Solara in S.E. Wisconsin. SE Sport 4cyl for $2,340 off of MSRP. I think the vehicle stickered for $22,991 or so. Bought it from Carmax in Kenosha.
#640 of 672 correction: no TSB yet but have a new "proven" fix
Dec 19, 2003 (10:21 am)
Correction: Was misinformed about the TSB being issued. I'm a bit new to all this and now ready to ask more specific questions.
Called another Toyota dealership service rep today and asked for a left pull update. Unfortunately, there is no TSB yet.
However, they had 2 engineers from Toyota California head office in and they turned the strut supports about 1 inch counter clockwise then fitted on a new 3 dot camberbolt 90105A0005. They then realigned the vehicle to spec.
They have done this fix to 5 Solaras and 1 Camry and reported that they are all running dead solid perfect. Also, they now do this to every Solara they sell before it leaves the lot.
They faxed this fix to my dealership to have the work done on Monday.
#641 of 672 further left pull developments
Dec 19, 2003 (6:53 pm)
Just got back from a one hour get together with a head mechanic at a private alignment shop. He said that the fix that I mentioned peviously (where the strut assembly is turned 1 inch counter clockwise with the new camber bolt and original alignment specs) is only masking the true underlying problem.
He advised me to be patient and wait for the official TSB to come out and begin the arbitration procedure at the same time (carrot and stick).
I'm cancelling my Monday morning appointment and making an appointment with the regional manager instead.
This beautiful car deserves to be fixed properly.
#642 of 672 Anyone have the NAV system?
Dec 19, 2003 (9:38 pm)
I saw someone over on the Avalon board state that he has to select "English or French" language when he turns on his Navigation system in his new 04 Avalon XLS. Good God, that would be enough to make me never want Navigation in a new Solara.
The NAV system, in French, probably only allows you to drive in reverse. At full speed.
Does anyone know if the Solara Nav system has the same feature? The poster didn't appear to be from Canada, so I don't know why Toyota would put the French choice in there. SABOTAGE: Isn't that a French word?