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#450 of 2954 Re: 08 Highlander [alpha01]
Feb 21, 2007 (8:50 am)
Well, I for one will be looking elsewhere for a better styled vehicle. After seeing the pictures, I was truly disappointed. I really don't want to drive an overstuffed RAV without a rear spare tire.
I can't believe I am saying this as I own/have owned the following vehicles from new 2004 Sequioia SR5 4WD, 2002 HL Ltd AWD, 1999 Solara SLE V6, and 1999 RX300. Looks like a Murano and another RX will be given serious consideration. Toyota blew this one. They have very loyal customers like myself but as we age (50) we do expect nicer things from Toyota.
#451 of 2954 Re: 08 Highlander [sallen10]
Feb 21, 2007 (2:18 pm)
I don't know that Toyota will be that upset if you purchase another RX.
If I were you, I'd also check out the Mazda CX-9, Subaru Tribeca 3.6L, the GM Triplets and the Hyundai Veracruz.
#452 of 2954 Re: 08 Highlander [prnd350]
Feb 21, 2007 (4:04 pm)
I agree. After seeing the new Highlander, I was a bit disappointed too. Did not think much about it till I happened on a nice 2wd 4 cylinder at the local dealer. It dawned on me that in a few months the 07s would be gone. So after a couple of test drives we bought the 07.
A couple other issues bothered me about the 08 like the increased width from 71.9 to 75.2 inches. The extra 3 inches in width is a problem due to the width of our garage.
The height also seems to have grown from 67.9 to 69.3, but I am not sure if the 08 measurement includes a roof rack. The current model is tall enough.
The 3.5L in the 08 was going to be overkill for us. The 4 is turning out to be rather zippy. I am surprised that with higher gas prices we keep on getting bigger vehicles and more power. Just goes to show people don't care.
I suspect the new prices will be up a few thousand for a base model since the 4 cyl is gone.
#453 of 2954 Re: 08 Highlander [alpha01]
Feb 21, 2007 (7:03 pm)
Comparing the two is a good idea. I did just that and came away liking the Highlander. The Limited Rav4 2wd had more options but the ride was choppy compared to the 2wd Highlander. I was hoping to like the Rav4. The Limited was the same price and better mpg (24/30 vs 22/28).
#454 of 2954 Re: 08 Highlander [avalon02wh]
Feb 22, 2007 (7:02 am)
Except from loyal owners, like you and me, who currently like the looks of the Highlanders the knock from the rest of the market who looked at it and immediately wrote it off was, It's too small. It's a 4 person vehicle ( adults ).
These buyers didn't have a lot of other choices except the Pilot unless they wanted to step all the way up to a Sequoia. The Pilot/MDX got a lot of buyers for whom the Highlander was 'just' a Camry wagon. The new Highlander is now Pilot-size with the new GM triplets being significantly bigger yet.
#455 of 2954 Re: 08 Highlander [prnd350]
Feb 22, 2007 (7:21 am)
I was looking for possibly an 07 HL 4wd 4 cylinder. Does it have enough power?
Feb 22, 2007 (7:28 am)
just beat the brand new Ford Edge in a 4-way comparo in MT. Despite its age. They criticized the current model most for its driving dynamics, essentially it was the snoozer ride of the 4 (the ages-old Murano won the contest, with the new Santa Fe coming a close second).
Can we expect the driving dynamics of the new model to improve at all, I wonder? I would tend to agree that the steering is totally numb in the current model, and handling is minivan-like. There's not much sport in this "sport utility vehicle".
Will the '08 have electric steering? I believe the current model still uses a hydraulic pump, right?
#457 of 2954 Re: 08 Highlander [avalon02wh]
Feb 22, 2007 (7:30 am)
Same question as for prd, does it have enough power? or is it sluggish?
#458 of 2954 Here is an alternative view ( speculation )
Feb 22, 2007 (7:51 am)
There are a lot of currently satisfied Highlander and HH owners to the tune of about 500K-600K currently on the road. A good number like the posters above want a more dramatic modern style, a good number like the current size very much, a good number want two-person carrying ability with high utility but excellent fuel economy.
The Camry Solara is destined to be discontinued, possibly except for the ragtop.
Toyota is offloading 100,000 units of production to it's new partner at the Subaru plant in Indiana.
Both of these reduce plant usage in Kentucky...hmmmmmmmm.
Is there a smaller, more efficient I4 and I4+HSD crossover in the works for Kentucky that's bigger and nicer than the Matrix but maybe just smaller than the current Highlander? For the JDM they have the Blade which I think addresses this segment.
Why would they leave a hole of 100,000+ vehicles at the prime production site in the US? Curious.
#459 of 2954 Re: Here is an alternative view ( speculation ) [kdhspyder]
Feb 22, 2007 (9:21 am)
When I read about the Blade, I too thought it was a prime candidate for TMMK production, especially given that it is expected to use the Camry's 2.4L which isn't produced at NUMMI or in Ontario. Certainly, not that engines NEED to be produced where the car is assembled, but it reduces logistics costs, I'd imagine....
But I see the Blade as much more of a Mazda 3 Hatch competitor.