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Re: Toyota Navigation systems suck [gdkoger] by kdhspyder
Oct 17, 2008 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: gdkoger (Oct 17, 2008 6:55 am)

How is it that you find the voice recognition feature useless? In the deliveries I do on the Navi systems I make certain that every new owner understands when and how to use it before they drive off.
You can control the audio
You can give it POI groups, on the fly
You can have it send you home, on the fly
You can change the destination, on the fly
What specifically is it that you want it to do that it won't do?
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Re: Toyota Navigation systems suck [kdhspyder] by gdkoger
Oct 17, 2008 (9:43 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Oct 17, 2008 7:17 am)

Yes you can turn POI on or OFF, but it doesn't show where to go. It doesn't take you anywhere. Meaning I want to go to BK. I can only turn on restaurants. I can't find the closest BK to me right now. How good is that? 65 voice commands.. WOW great Radio features. ahhh AM, FM1 or FM2, SAT or CD Changer. What about stations? Change the destination?? What to Home? What tell it an address.. Good Luck! I have no accent, no draw, no lisp, nothing.. And it gets 2 out 10 thing correct that I say. But yet I can use a current Honda NAV, and all those features work by my voice, including setting the temp to 72 degrees for the driver side. I can also try and fake a voice and it works. I can also have a passenger type an address while in motion. So don't even try and sell this NAV as acceptable. You may sell them, but I don't believe you own one.
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Re: Toyota Navigation systems suck [gdkoger] by kdhspyder
Oct 17, 2008 (10:27 am)
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Replying to: gdkoger (Oct 17, 2008 9:43 am)

I do sell them and I know more about them than any salesperson within 500 mi. I've tested all the Toyota systems and except for the Avalon which is a PITA the Toyota systems are easy to use.
 
The failure was in the delivery process because that salesperson was uninterested or unable to explain how it works. Maybe I can assist you from afar over the Internets...
 
Home?
New destination on the fly?
Finding the closest BK?
Dialing a restaurant or police station while enroute?
 
Only the Prius has the 'Temperature' commands but it's a smaller car with no dual zone options. They are very easy to use. The vehicles with dual zone options - Tundra, Sequoia, Sienna, Avalon, Camry - don't have the 'Temp' commands.
 
Regarding the fact that Toyota has blocked access to typing on the screen or entering a tel # on the screen while the vehicle is moving is a conscious decision on it's part. They obviously designed it that way intentionally. If Honda allows it that's a conscious decision on its part. The companies are different.
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Re: Toyota Navigation systems suck [kdhspyder] by gdkoger
Oct 17, 2008 (10:49 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Oct 17, 2008 10:27 am)

Are you saying there are more than 65 commands (give or take a couple)? While driving how do I find the closest BK, and have it take me there? And also, how about finding and calling the closest Outback on my way to my destination?
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Re: Toyota Navigation systems suck [kdhspyder] by mtairyordge
Oct 20, 2008 (9:27 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Oct 17, 2008 10:27 am)

I also find the Toyo Nav system to be less than user friendly. Granted my salesperson did not provide me with a review of it. I have been learning about it via this and other forums, Toyota Nation for one.
 
My wife's Acura Nav (tech) system is so much better and flexible. If I could take that system and drop it in the Highlander I would be a happy puppy.
 
But lets get to it......What is the over ride for the Toyota system? I know that some have developed a hardware override, but I have never heard of a software override.
 
kdhspyder - where are you located? It would be great if someone could explain how to get the voice recognition to understand simple commands. I got a list from this forum.
 
One example: dialing a number by voice. When saying "0" the word "ZERO" causes two 00 to be in the phone number like 41005558746 guess what too many numbers. But if you say OH then only one 0 is used like 4105558746.
 
Understanding how the voice recognition works would make this a more enjoyable vehicle.
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2008 brakes by mtairyordge
Oct 20, 2008 (9:39 am)
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I purchased a 2008 HL Limited around Memorial Day. I have owned a 2001, 2003 and a 2004 HL Limited.
 
The brakes on the 2001 where horrible. They never stopped the vehicle in time and I developed a pattern of slowing down way in advance of a stop, not a bad thing. This was annoying if not actually dangerous in panic type stops. As a result I traded that in after 12000 miles on a 2003. The 2003 brakes where adequate and got the job done. I traded that on a 2004 after 15000 miles for additional features. After 70000 miles I traded for the current 2008.
 
Now the 2008 brakes are more like the 2001 than the 2003 or 2004. What's up with that? Anyone else experience the same thing, or have an explaination.
 
 
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Re: 2008 brakes [mtairyordge] by bdyment
Oct 20, 2008 (12:19 pm)
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Replying to: mtairyordge (Oct 20, 2008 9:39 am)

Perhaps you should go for a longer test drive before buying to fully check out the brake operation.
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Re: Toyota Navigation systems suck [mtairyordge] by kdhspyder
Oct 20, 2008 (12:20 pm)
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Replying to: mtairyordge (Oct 20, 2008 9:27 am)

I just spend 15 min in a brand new 2008 with Navi and BT. I tried all the normal commands that I give to the VR system when a customer is taking delivery. There were no significant problems.
 
The BT took about 30 sec to program then I used it to 'Dial by Number' to call our switchboard that has 3 zeros in it. It clearly understood. Then I commanded it to "Dial" and it went through.
 
There are less commands in the new Navi systems than there are in the Prius; 'Temperature XX' for example and changing preset radio stations by voice are not available. The other audio, BT and map commands were tried; all seemed to work fine. Why do the newer systems eliminate the 'Temp' and 'Preset' commands? I think because they are triply redundant. In the Prius you can
..use the touch screen
..use the steering wheel toggles
..use voice commands
Why all three? The voice commands are not necessary to change radio stations nor to change the temperatures.
 
As to overriding the blockage on the screen for entering a new destination and or to find nearby POI's they all work easily by voice command.
 
Entering a new destination on the fly is done on the Map screen ( "Map" ) by the following commands
"Map"
"Address"
Say the State: "New York"
Say the City: "New York"
Say the Street: "Hudson Street"
Say the Number: "3-4-5"
Say Enter Destination: "Enter Destination"
 
Try "I'm Hungry" when in the Current Position mode when within 2 mi range.
 
BTW..command the system!
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Re: 2008 brakes [mtairyordge] by thardgrave
Oct 20, 2008 (1:18 pm)
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Replying to: mtairyordge (Oct 20, 2008 9:39 am)

This is a really strange complaint on this board....in over a year now since the 2008 were introduced, I remember hearing of several other complaints, but never regarding the braking. I also clearly remember reading many road tests and driving impressions, and never remember reading anything other then good or very good brakes....most of the complaints have been with the electronic assisted steering and the lack of center feel in it.
      I have put about 15,000 miles on my 2008 Limited, including driving in hilly areas and in busy freeway traffic and have never had any issues with either braking effectivenes or fading, so not sure what to say. Maybe others can chime in if they have had issues also.
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Re: 2008 brakes [mtairyordge] by lucky_777
Oct 20, 2008 (4:11 pm)
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Replying to: mtairyordge (Oct 20, 2008 9:39 am)

Brakes on my HL are excellent and this is a first complaint I've heard about HL brakes. Get your car checked out by the dealer.

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