- #2720 of 2854
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Re: Accidentally Opening Locked Doors From Inside? [1headlight]
by 4wheelinit
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Oct 12, 2008 (7:00 pm)
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Replying to: 1headlight (Oct 12, 2008 6:55 pm)
Thanks for the quick response. I was actually referring to the front doors.
This is the first car I've had where the door handle seems to override the locked status.
I do see that the rear doors don't have this setting.
Was this always that way for the Highlander? And what is the logic behind it? I admit it escapes me.
Mark
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- #2721 of 2854
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Re: Accidentally Opening Locked Doors From Inside? [4wheelinit]
by bdyment
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Oct 13, 2008 (4:21 am)
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Replying to: 4wheelinit (Oct 12, 2008 7:00 pm)
This is an interesting observation. I just checked our 2009 Ford Escape Limited and the doors open the same as your Highlander. However, I don't think our 2007 Ford Escape opened this way, nor our 2004 Highlander. The door handles in the 04 Highlander and the 07 Escape would not over ride a locked door button. Strange. The dealers will probably tell us that this is a safety feature, so you can get out the vehicle in a hurry if there is an accident. Of course they will tell us anything.
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- #2722 of 2854
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Re: Accidentally Opening Locked Doors From Inside? [bdyment]
by wwest
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Oct 13, 2008 (9:15 am)
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Replying to: bdyment (Oct 13, 2008 4:21 am)
In an acccident the battery might fail, get disconnected, or get crushed. With the doors locked you would have no easy escape route. I never wish to own a vehicle without this "feature".
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- #2723 of 2854
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Re: Accidentally Opening Locked Doors From Inside? [4wheelinit]
by lucky_777
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Oct 13, 2008 (10:14 am)
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Replying to: 4wheelinit (Oct 12, 2008 4:38 pm)
I looked at it on my 08 HL and only front doors unlock automatically. Rear doors where kids normally seat require lock to be explicitly unlocked in order to open the door.
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- #2724 of 2854
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Re: Accidentally Opening Locked Doors From Inside? [wwest]
by 4wheelinit
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Oct 14, 2008 (7:09 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (Oct 13, 2008 9:15 am)
Thanks to all of you for your replies. Even if the battery were to fail, aren't the locks controlled by your hand or the electric locking system which would make the argument for this "feature" unnecessary? I really don't know the answer, but having unlocked many "electric" locks by hand it seems like the mechanism is actually mechanical but power assisted.
Trust me... I'm no engineer or car expert, so please bdyment or anyone else please correct me... or confirm if you agree.
Thanks again,
Mark |
- #2725 of 2854
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Re: Toyota Navigation systems suck [nimrod99]
by gdkoger
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Oct 17, 2008 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: nimrod99 (Apr 18, 2008 7:54 pm)
I hate to back track.. But that is the way this forum works. You are exactly right about the NAV. And most people who argue this are lying and don't have a NAV or at least this version. Because this is the most annoying thing. If there reasoning is safety, then add more voice features. The voice features are useless and the NAV is useless unless you type in where you are going when you start. Or going home.. What did you do to fix this lockout.
Thanks in advance...
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- #2726 of 2854
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Re: Toyota Navigation systems suck [gdkoger]
by kdhspyder
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Oct 17, 2008 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: gdkoger (Oct 17, 2008 6:55 am)
How is it that you find the voice recognition feature useless? In the deliveries I do on the Navi systems I make certain that every new owner understands when and how to use it before they drive off.
You can control the audio
You can give it POI groups, on the fly
You can have it send you home, on the fly
You can change the destination, on the fly
What specifically is it that you want it to do that it won't do?
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- #2727 of 2854
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Re: Toyota Navigation systems suck [kdhspyder]
by gdkoger
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Oct 17, 2008 (9:43 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Oct 17, 2008 7:17 am)
Yes you can turn POI on or OFF, but it doesn't show where to go. It doesn't take you anywhere. Meaning I want to go to BK. I can only turn on restaurants. I can't find the closest BK to me right now. How good is that? 65 voice commands.. WOW great Radio features. ahhh AM, FM1 or FM2, SAT or CD Changer. What about stations? Change the destination?? What to Home? What tell it an address.. Good Luck! I have no accent, no draw, no lisp, nothing.. And it gets 2 out 10 thing correct that I say. But yet I can use a current Honda NAV, and all those features work by my voice, including setting the temp to 72 degrees for the driver side. I can also try and fake a voice and it works. I can also have a passenger type an address while in motion. So don't even try and sell this NAV as acceptable. You may sell them, but I don't believe you own one.
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- #2728 of 2854
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Re: Toyota Navigation systems suck [gdkoger]
by kdhspyder
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Oct 17, 2008 (10:27 am)
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Replying to: gdkoger (Oct 17, 2008 9:43 am)
I do sell them and I know more about them than any salesperson within 500 mi. I've tested all the Toyota systems and except for the Avalon which is a PITA the Toyota systems are easy to use.
The failure was in the delivery process because that salesperson was uninterested or unable to explain how it works. Maybe I can assist you from afar over the Internets...
Home?
New destination on the fly?
Finding the closest BK?
Dialing a restaurant or police station while enroute?
Only the Prius has the 'Temperature' commands but it's a smaller car with no dual zone options. They are very easy to use. The vehicles with dual zone options - Tundra, Sequoia, Sienna, Avalon, Camry - don't have the 'Temp' commands.
Regarding the fact that Toyota has blocked access to typing on the screen or entering a tel # on the screen while the vehicle is moving is a conscious decision on it's part. They obviously designed it that way intentionally. If Honda allows it that's a conscious decision on its part. The companies are different.
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- #2729 of 2854
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Re: Toyota Navigation systems suck [kdhspyder]
by gdkoger
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Oct 17, 2008 (10:49 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Oct 17, 2008 10:27 am)
Are you saying there are more than 65 commands (give or take a couple)? While driving how do I find the closest BK, and have it take me there? And also, how about finding and calling the closest Outback on my way to my destination?
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