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#2075 of 2954 Re: '08 Highlander - Recirculating vs Outside Air HVAC [1highlander]
Jan 18, 2008 (4:11 pm)
I can only guess that maybe they are concerned with the recirc staying on too long and possibly fogging up the interior glass. I find that air gets stale pretty quickly when that is used, and in the winter I would imagine also get pretty humid quickly. I think Toyota has programmed in more to these systems than in the past.....I have a 2002 Sequoia and a 2000 Lexus, and neither seems as controlled as the new Highlander (I also have a 2008)
#2076 of 2954 Re: New SUV Purchase [damifinomike]
Jan 19, 2008 (5:40 am)
Glad you chose Toyota over the Buick... GM cars have a big problem with electrical systems! Especially the Buicks, with all the stuff they have.
Question.....I just bought a Highlander Limited, and I love it! Do you know how to keep the audio screen on with the Nav..... I like to see the Text of the music playing, and my screen doesn't stay on. Is there a way to continue showing the music station screen with the text?
Thanks for any help?
#2077 of 2954 Re: '08 Highlander - Recirculating vs Outside Air HVAC [1highlander]
Jan 19, 2008 (6:40 am)
Toyota service centers can alter some aspects of HVAC system behavior from the factory defaults using their diagnostic scan tool. I'm pretty sure that recirculation parameters are adjustable in some way, but I don't know if the specific issue you describe can be changed. It's worth looking into.
#2078 of 2954 Re: New SUV Purchase [ronn]
Jan 19, 2008 (7:23 am)
Sorry to say, I did not get the NAV system with my 2008 Highlander Limited. Darn thing has just about everything else though. Do not have any little kids in household, thus I did not get the DVD/NAV system. By chance, the Limited I did find on my dealer lot had all features that were must have including the hard to find Blizzard Pearl White paint job. Good luck with your question though . . .
Do you find vehicle slow in responsiveness to slow down when you take foot off the gas in preparation to stop at stop sign or red light? I feel as though I really need to hit the brakes rather "firmly" on this vehicle. Light rolling resistance maybe?
#2079 of 2954 Re: New SUV Purchase [damifinomike]
Jan 19, 2008 (7:38 am)
Hey...thanks for the reply. Maybe somebody out there with the nav can help me with my question.
I have not noticed the slow responsiveness that you are referring to, but haven't really given it alot of thought. It is a solid heavy SUV, so maybe that is why it is moving along until the brakes are hit firmly. I will pay attention today to that.
Do you get alot of looks with the Blizzard Pearl? I do !!! I have had many folks stop and tell me what a gorgeous car this is.
Enjoy it.... It really rides better than my 2005 Avalon...one fun awesome SUV
Have a great day.
#2080 of 2954 Re: New SUV Purchase [damifinomike]
Jan 19, 2008 (9:02 am)
I appreciate your note of Jan 15 about the Buick and your Highlander purchase. I'm seriously looking at the '08 Highlander. Our close friends, he's about 6'4" (so likes cars with space) recently purchased a '08 Buick Enclave. They rave about it. However they've always bought GM don't think they'll ever buy foreign. I was planning to test drive an Enclave to compare. I have looked at one on the lot and what I noticed (same on the GMC Acadia), was that there was no transmission hump so the floor in the back seat area was flat across. What this seemed to create was that when you sat in the back seats, you felt like you knees where in your chest, and I'm only 5'6". I'm sure taller people would find this uncomfortable.
May I ask what other things you did not like with the Buick vs. the Highlander? Thanks.
#2081 of 2954 Re: '08 Highlander - Recirculating vs Outside Air HVAC [thardgrave]
Jan 19, 2008 (12:13 pm)
During wintertime driving the very BEST way to operate a Toyota or Lexus climate control system is to turn the A/C compressor off(***), totally and completely, switch the airflow mode to footwell and windshield combined air flow and then set, maintain, your temperature setpoint to your own personal comfort level, or that of your passenger(s). Ignore the actual temperature setting "number", it my case it seemed to be above 75F in order for the cabin to be a comfortable 70-72F.
Saturday morning I drove home, Portland to Seattle eastside, ~200 miles, temperature hovering around 34-36, overcast and light snow flurries the full way.
The significant level of warm airflow diverted to the windshield surface helped to keep mine and my wife's upper body warm. Otherwise NipponDenso, Denso US' unique dual layer airflow would have left our upper body subject only to the radiant cooling effects of the surrounding landscape amd more likely than not an encounter, an episode, with sudden and unexpected windshield fogging.
*** In earlier times I resorted to unplugging the a/c clutch circuit.
In my '92 LS400 I added a "winter mode" operational switch so the OAT sensor always indicated sub-freezing conditions during the winter months. Lexus disables the A/C entirely if the OAT is below ~35F.
My '01 AWD RX300 has two c-best optional settings that address this issue. one of those allows you to disable the A/C indefinitely by simply switching it off manually one time. The second unlinks the A/C from operating automatically (with no A/C "on" indication) in defrost/defog/demist mode.
Later Lexus model have additional C-best options, one that prevents the system from automatically switching into cooling mode when the cabin temperature rises to within a few degrees of your temperature setpoint. A bit discomforting, that.
I notice that '08 models automatically switch to heating, footwell airflow with slight flow to the windshield, once OAT declines to the point of the A/C being disabled.
Previous models are prone, HIGHLY prone, to instances of sudden windshield fogging when the A/C is automatically disabled as the OAT declines below ~35F.
'90 LS400 to '08 models, 18 years and they still haven't gotten it "right".
That's what they meant by...
"Relentless Pursuit of Perfection"
Relentless = NEVER getting to your goal(s).
Do you suppose that's why they changed it too....??:
"Passionate Pursuit of Perfection"
#2082 of 2954 Re: New SUV Purchase [jgant]
Jan 19, 2008 (1:39 pm)
Hi...I didn't test drive the Buick Enclave, but I had a freind that did. She is short and said there were alot of blind spots. She also had heard that Buick has alot of issues with electrical problems. I have 2 freinds with Buicks, and they have both had lots of computer electrical issues. Lights that come on, and then nothing shows that there is a problem. The one freind has replaced to computer chips that cost over 500.00 to replace, and then after doing that, the lights came on again. That car is now for sale!
I have had 8 Toyotas, and I have never had any electrical issues are problems with them. The resale on a Toyota is something to also consider. It is much higher than a Buick. The quality, fit and finish in my opinion can't be beat!! Good luck on whatever you choose.
I will add that freinds of mine rode in the Highlander 08 Limited of mine today, and they both have Lexus. They said the Highlander was as quiet, smooth, and had all the luxury they have. They were totally impressed with this SUV, and loved the look of both the interior and exterior!
#2083 of 2954 Re: New SUV Purchase [ronn]
Jan 19, 2008 (2:57 pm)
Personally, I prefer the styling of the GM CUVs (i.e. Enclave) over the Highlander, Murano, CX-9, and the upcoming '09 Pilot. GM seems to have found a good blend of rounded, sleek lines and squarish-utility. I want my SUV to look more like a truck -- otherwise I'd buy a station wagon.
My problem with the Enclave is that it's too large for my needs. I really don't need a 7-seater. The Murano and the Highlander are about the same length as my 4Runner, and that's about as large as I want to get.
Speaking of my 4Runner, I did have an electrical issue with a side airbag sensor that required my entire driver's seat to be replaced, so Toyotas aren't immune from electrical problems. I've also had several rattles and poor fitting interior trim that required multiple visits to the dealer to correct. I'm still happy with it, but I'm well aware that Toyotas have their challenges too -- hopefully less so than other manufacturers, though.
#2084 of 2954 Re: New SUV Purchase [qs933]
Jan 19, 2008 (5:37 pm)
Did you look at the Mitsu. Outlander? Alot of people like those. I drove one, the ride was okay, but the Rav4 ride was better. Have you tried the RAV4? It probably isn't as large an SUV that you want. It handles great though, and they are selling like crazy! I will say the Enclave looks good except I don't like that grill that Buick uses in the front! Ugly to me. The back of the Enclave looks sharp.
Highlander made the #2 SUV for sales in December, so it is very popular and has excellent reviews. I do love mine......I actually hate to get out of it. I just want to drive and drive!!!
Good luck with your choice. I hope you get the Highlander!!