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You are in the Toyota Highlander
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Toyota Highlander, Toyota, SUV
#1098 of 2954 Re: Yes. [microbust]
Jul 28, 2007 (9:44 pm)
Don't let the dealer snow you about no rear AC for northern CA. They are lying. Do you think Toyota makes a distinction that "better not let N California get rear AC". Lets make our options twice as difficult to manage.
When I was buying my 2003 Highlander, the dealer told me that they had discontinued Bluestone. I checked with another dealer and they showed me the shipment logs which showed a ton of bluestones being delivered. Corporate offices also confirmed Bluestone was NOT being phased out. I went back to the original dealer to let him hang himself (again). I asked, "are you sure about Bluestone color being dropped" and he said yes. What a liar.
I drove back there about a month later to show him my Bluestone Highlander, buy he was gone (probably fired).
#1099 of 2954 Re: Yes. [pablox]
Jul 28, 2007 (10:18 pm)
The arbitrary options by region aspect of Toyota is truly assanine.
Somehow, I doubt that the region's choices are "arbitrary." After all, it's in their best interest to pick combinations that people want.
I'll bet the dealer that stated that no Limiteds were coming in that region with the 3rd row air was desperately trying to sell whatever was on the lot. Why give a customer a reason to delay their purchase?
#1100 of 2954 Re: Yes. [qs933]
Jul 29, 2007 (4:50 am)
Be that as it may, I see little logic in the way they pick and choose their options. If someone can explain it to me, I'd like to hear it.
#1101 of 2954 Re: Market Adjustment noted in So Cal [oman9]
Jul 29, 2007 (4:52 am)
That's crap!!! With that pricing you are well within striking distance of a Lexus GX470. (my last vehicle that I had to get rid of due to employer policy) I paid $36800 2 years ago for a GX470 w/nav, mark levinson, and dvd player. The arrogance of these dealers really bothers me. I truly hope that GM, and the other CUV makers embarass Toyota this quarter in sales.
#1102 of 2954 Re: Test drove a Sport 4x4. [pablox]
Jul 29, 2007 (5:00 am)
Your impressions are interesting to me. I have owned 3 HL Limited in the past 2001/03/04. IMHO the feel for the road was just right. I drove a Sport model yesterday and the drive felt 'mushy'. Almost nonexistent while going straight and then coming back when turrning. Always feeling stable but reminding me of those old Cadillac or God forbid my dad's old Grand Marquis -I call it the Hawaii 5-0 car because it is wht the lead character drove.
This is troublesome to me why did Toyota take the rode feel away. I am looking to replace my 04 and will be test driving a limited later. But it sounds like I will be waiting for the Pilot redesign or moving up to a MDX. And I don't want to spend the extra money in operating the MDX.
Anyone know when the Pilot Desiel is coming?
#1103 of 2954 Re: Test drove a Sport 4x4. [mtairyordge]
Jul 29, 2007 (5:23 am)
I was basically referring to ride and cornering ability. I agree that steering feel in all of them is totally lacking. I guess this is due to the electically boosted power steering but I would like more. It's not a sports car though so I can personally overlook it. For driving feel, I'd prefer an MDX among SUVs.
#1104 of 2954 Re: Market Adjustment noted in So Cal [oman9]
Jul 29, 2007 (9:02 am)
You have got to be kidding. On a rare or limited production car maybe, but a Highlander. Give me a break. I think this is short sighted of the dealer. They will drop soon enough and any dealer that does that goes to the rock bottom of my list for ALL future purchases.
Fitzmall is advertising $1000 over invoice with TTL for comparison. That's got to be an $8000 spread.
Anyways, HL is off my list without going to look at it. I would have bought an AWD limited with option C, but at over $40K with no memory seats and mirrors, forget it. At that price I have the Acura MDX, Volvo XC90 and Buick Enclave as viable options. Heck even the Hyundai Veracruz has memory seats for less money. Not to mention, I personally think the HL styling is boring, middle of the road and non offensive. Typical Toyota.
#1105 of 2954 Re: Market Adjustment noted in So Cal [flipwilson]
Jul 29, 2007 (9:36 am)
One of the reasons dealers put market adjustment stickers on the windows is that they don't want to sell the vehicles!!!
When the initial launch is made usually there are 1 or 2 or 3 vehicles rather than the 40 or 60 that should be in stock. If the 3 are sold then nothing is available to show to the rest of the public.
However if a buyer absolutely has to have the very first one...and is willing to pay for the privilege... then why not? It a free country, nobody was holding a gun to the buyer's head. He could have waited 60 days or so. As long as it's fairly applied and clear in advance it's just the market at work.
When the FJ's came out our Service Manager had to have one of the first ones. Normally we can buy at $450 over invoice ( we can get an FJ now at that price ) but he had to have one of the first ones...so he paid $1000 over MSRP.
#1106 of 2954 Looking at the '08
Jul 29, 2007 (9:59 am)
I'm getting ready to buy an 2008 Highlander and have been looking at dealers that post their selling price on the internet. I'm familiar with Fitzgeralds in MD.& Taylor Toyota in Va. but does anyone know of other Toyota dealers in the continental U.S. that publish selling prices on the internet? I bought our 2001 Highlander from King's in Ohio over the 'net/phone and it worked out very well. They posted their prices and it beat our locals (Arkansas) by over $2K, plus no dickering/stalling, "I'll have to ask my manager" etc. Thanks for any help.
#1107 of 2954 Re: Yes. [pablox]
Jul 29, 2007 (12:38 pm)
There is plenty of logic. The packages are assembled with two buyers in mind: (a) the cheapskate who only wants a model with the minimum and (2) everyone else who would really like the better bells and whistles. Trouble is we too don't want to pay too much, but we will on account of the packages as assembled which optimizes profitability. Sadly, optimizing profitability does not maximize customer happiness which is really what you are remarking about.