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Saturn L-Series, Saturn, Sedan, Wagon
#51 of 70 Why I like Saturn
Apr 27, 2004 (11:37 am)
The VUE is the cheapest AWD utility that one can buy with Honda's excellent 250 hp 3.5L V6.
Nicely equipped at $24,800, (includes side curtains), with rebates and financing available.
Jun 24, 2004 (2:22 pm)
why can't Saturn and Honda partner together to make one youth division? The upside is that Honda won't need another youth division- simply give the Fit and City Saturn badges. The problem is that owners of Saturn Fits will have to decide between trading up to A Chevrolet Cobalt, Saturn ION or a Honda Civic. Wonder which one they'll pick.... Hmmmmm....
#53 of 70 www.intellichoice.com
Aug 02, 2004 (11:31 am)
I was wondering how accurate the intellichoice.com ownership cost figures are in the experience of actual L-series owners here ?
Over the first 5 years of ownership they estimate the maintenance cost to average $458/year and repairs $132/year.
I ask because their figures for my Oldsmobile Alero are pretty far off my own experience, so I wonder if this inaccuracy is endemic or just model or case specific.
I'd ask in an ACTUAL L-series forum but they're all now read only. Not great if you're interested in seeing reports from current owners of 2-4 year old vehicles (really nice info if you're buying used). I don't understand Edmunds' logic there.
#54 of 70 Its just that
Aug 02, 2004 (5:45 pm)
Theres so little interest in this truly subpar vehicle that it doesnt really warrant an open discussion. Edmunds.com TH automatically archives discussion topics that have languished for a period of time. I dont think that the super rebates even justify the purchase of this car, there are just so many better cars on the market.
#55 of 70 "there are so many better cars on the market"
Aug 04, 2004 (3:41 pm)
As far as the V6 L wagon is concerned, I think GM really had something here (a mid-priced wagon with decent handling and quite good hwy mileage) but GM "couldn't market scissors to a world trapped in a paper bag" and didn't spend the extra to make a really reliable product.
When I look at the altenatives (Subaru, Volvo, Saab, VW, Ford) they all either fail in terms of acceptable power, parts cost or mpg.
Aug 04, 2004 (5:47 pm)
The Legacy wagon, even the base 168hp H4, is a far superior product to the aged and umimpressive L-Series, as is the VW Passat 1.8T. Parts cost on the Legacy isnt high, but MPG is competitive with the L-Series, and the Legacy GT will trounce the L in acceleration, with the aforementioned base model not running far behind the L, whose V6 offers but 14 more hp. The other makes you mention dont really market midsize moderately priced wagons.
That said, the wagon market is a very small slice of the pie. In terms of sedans, name ONE SINGLE competitive advantage of the L-series, over say... Accord, Camry, Altima, 6, Malibu....
Aug 05, 2004 (12:43 pm)
We really need to focus on the L-series replacement due out for the 06 model year. If you want to compare vehicles, try the Wagons board for the wagon version, or the Sedans board. You can ask the host there to re-activate the L-series discussion, or post in one of the "help me choose" or "help me select" discussions. Thanks!
Aug 05, 2004 (8:03 pm)
Well it doesn't appear there's enough activity here to assess people's actual maintenance & repair costs, so I'll try saturnfans.com
Good luck with your cars,
#59 of 70 more news on the L series replacment
Sep 04, 2004 (8:06 am)
this info was found on the car and driver web site during the last few days.;
General Motors said it plans to invest $200 million to upgrade one of its Kansas plants, where a new Saturn mid-size car will be built to replace the slow-selling L Series, Reuters reported.
Saturn decided to end L Series production this summer, a year ahead of schedule, because the car has been a sales flop since it was launched in 1999.
The new Saturn car, which will be available as a 2007 model, will be built in GM's Fairfax manufacturing site in the latter half of 2006. The plant, which employs about 3,000 people, currently builds the Chevy Malibu and Malibu Maxx. <<<
I own the Maxx and had a chance to meet the Fairfax plant manager and staff - they appeared to be a hard working bunch that wants their cars to be good
#60 of 70 L-Series Wagon
Sep 05, 2004 (8:26 pm)
It's been a long time since I've seen one on the road. Maybe a year.