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#1810 of 2033 Re: What does... [bottgers] by andeet Apr 28, 2007 (6:41 pm)
Replying to: bottgers (Apr 28, 2007 12:49 pm) Toyota makes changes to each Scion model each year to make them different and fresh. Due to high selling numbers with the tC; they are limiting changes to '08 and the only major change is the headlights. And thinking about the headlight change made me realize that '08's are the last year for the first generation tC.
#1811 of 2033 oh... by bottgers Apr 29, 2007 (1:41 pm)
...so it'll be redesigned in '09, not discontinued? Replies to this message: andeet (May 01, 2007 1:59 am) autoboy16 (May 01, 2007 1:47 pm)
#1812 of 2033 tires by podunk503 Apr 30, 2007 (10:48 am)
shopping for a new '07 tc and yesterday we visited a local dealer. i noticed between the 5 or 6 cars there, they had two different kinds of tires. what's with this? is one better than the other? since the dealer does not have the color i want and one tire is better than the other can i also request the better tire? thank you. Replies to this message: mark19 (Apr 30, 2007 1:31 pm)
#1813 of 2033 Re: tires [podunk503] by mark19 Apr 30, 2007 (1:31 pm)
Replying to: podunk503 (Apr 30, 2007 10:48 am) There are two tire brands that come on the tC. Bridgestone and Yokohama. There is no reason for why some come with either. Just whatever is in stock at the factory when they make it. You can't request which tires you want.   Both are pretty bad tires. But the Bridgestone is very very bad! Many people have spun out, crashed their car with the Bridgestones on them. Why? Not because of youth as some may think. The Bridgestone's are terrible when it gets wet outside. Imagine driving on ice, that's the sort of traction. The yokohama's are slightly better, but still nothing exciting.   Most of us have ditched the original tires and have bought other tires. I would recommend the Toyo Proxes4 tire. Very smooth, ride very comfortable, excellent traction dry and wet. Not to mention quiet, and not that expensive. Plus they're rated for all-season. Very good in winter, not like a snow tire, but I didn't have a problem getting around in 3-4" of snow.   Sure most will say that's ridiculous to replace original tires, but Toyota saved money on this car and it shows on the tires! Most of us don't care, since it's an easy fix, plus tires are cheaper than a crashed car!   Just wait for the color you want, should take 3-5 weeks usually. And then slap some Toyo Proxes4 on there. They're usually $81 at edgeracing.com local tire shop around me charged $117 a tire.
#1814 of 2033 Re: oh... [bottgers] by andeet May 01, 2007 (1:59 am)
Replying to: bottgers (Apr 29, 2007 1:41 pm) I don't know but I think tC will be redesigned in '09 just like the '08 xB. xB has sold in well performed numbers just like the tC and Toyota decided on keeping around the xB. While xA didn't get the numbers Toyota was hoping on and they decided to kill production but come with something different like more power and that's when xD came around. So it's logic tC will have second generation.   But I heard a rumor that Toyota wants Scion to have economical convertible coupe in the future. Replies to this message: autoboy16 (May 01, 2007 1:47 pm)
#1815 of 2033 Re: oh... [andeet] by autoboy16 May 01, 2007 (1:47 pm)
Replying to: andeet (May 01, 2007 1:59 am) As long as the automatic has more than 4speeds(NO CVT!! unless its the altimas...), a rear wiper and washer, and a non cracking/creaking sunroof and the tC will be ok with me! Maybe the I4 camrys 5speed automatic would be fine. The tC will likely not get the camrys MPG because the tC uses a 14.4gallon tank and the camry's is 18.5.   I'm interested in a diesel tC! A 2.2l 120hp 220lb ft of torque, 27mpg city and 44mpg highway. That would be PERFECT!!   -Cj
#1816 of 2033 2007 tc by podunk503 May 02, 2007 (12:37 pm)
we found a black one at the local dealership however it already has the security system installed. a $400+ option we were not really looking to get. i know the scions are pure price but how about the options or accessories? can we negotiate that price down of the alarm? has anyone had experience in doing this?
#1817 of 2033 I test drove a 5 speed today by bottgers May 05, 2007 (1:20 pm)
I absolutely loved everything about the car, but I've got to say, the gearing is hidiously low for a car of this size and engine power. IT DRASTICALLY NEEDS A 6TH GEAR! The gearing on this thing has the engine turning at least 500 RPM higher than my 5 speed Corolla in any given gear at any given speed. For example, my Corolla turns 3K RPM 75 MPH and I bet the tC turns at least 3500 RPM at the same speed. There's absolutely no reason to have the much bigger 2.4 liter tC engine turning higher RPMs than the 1.8 liter in my Corolla turns. They've got this thing geared as though it only has a 1.0 liter engine or something and it's no wonder it doesn't get better fuel economy. I guess I'm still interesed in owning a tC, but I would definitely have to change the overall gearing as 95% of my driving is highway and I'd want the taller gearing for better fuel economy.   Other than the ridiculous gearing, this car is a gem. Nice looks, a beautifully laid out interior, comfortable seats, smooth shifting gear box, plenty of options for me, firm handling for spirited driving, yet smooth enough riding not to be annoying, and that wonderful, smooth and powerful baby Camry engine. Now if I can just get something done about that gearing......
#1818 of 2033 Where is everybody? by bottgers May 05, 2007 (7:16 pm)
??????????? Replies to this message: mss (May 06, 2007 8:05 am) autoboy16 (May 06, 2007 9:28 am)
#1819 of 2033 Re: Where is everybody? [bottgers] by mss May 06, 2007 (8:05 am)
Replying to: bottgers (May 05, 2007 7:16 pm) >> IT DRASTICALLY NEEDS A 6TH GEAR!   Totally agree on this. I was dying to get the 5spd but after driving it and knowing 95% of my driving is at 75MPH, I ended up getting the Automatic. At 75-80 is turns about 3200RPM vs the 5spd that was well over 3500RPM at the same speed. Another comparison is my 03 Camry (4cyl, 4spd Auto), at the same speed about and it's right on 3000RPM. When I drive this car, my MPG is 32 vs 28 in the tC, but I do like the increased acceleration of the tC. Replies to this message: autoboy16 (May 06, 2007 9:28 am)

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