Scion tC

Replying to: JBaumgart (Feb 28, 2006 9:39 pm)

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Replying to: JBaumgart (Mar 01, 2006 5:43 pm)

Now imagine if toyota gave a navigation system as an option to replace the stereo to fit well behind the annoying stereo cover. Hopefully a 6 speed manual/5 speed automatic for an even sportier tC! Vent rear windows would be nice. But if they did this, the xA and xB MUST get stronger engines and total redesigns.
 
Out of all said, i think the new I4 in all vehicles and redesigned xA/xB will be most likely to happen .

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Replying to: ednardes (Mar 06, 2006 4:58 pm)

Hyundai's Tiburon is perhaps the closest match in terms of looks, style and price, but the sleek little Korean coupe can't touch the Scion tC in terms of road feel and power"
 
The tc has a 4cylinder and the tib has a 6 and is $$$. The tc is already the better deal. The only way to compare is if the tc has the 200hp supercharger. Then the hp #'s will be 200tc and 170tib . Ps the tib is still a

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Replying to: autoboy16 (Mar 07, 2006 5:29 pm)

When I was auto shopping in 2004, a tiburon GT came out to $17k out the door..exactly the same as a stripped tC. So no, the S/C tC is not in the same price league as a loaded tiburon. A tiburon with a S/C is about $21k and 1 second faster in the 1/4th mile than a supercharged tC, so the scion also cannot win against a tib in the price performance area (only in that the scion blower is directly supported by toyota).
 
The only reason I looked at the Tiburon is because my friend put 60k miles on a 2003 (within 2 years) without it breaking anything; unlike a cousin's 04 tC which keeps losing its passanger window motor and rattles like mad. To be fair my sti has lost its powerlocks once so unlike you I won't throw the comment dispite me obviously knowing alot more about the cars in question than you.

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Replying to: ednardes (Mar 08, 2006 12:33 am)

This comparison is straight from edmunds. Also remember the tC is in it's 2nd year of sales compared to the many of the tib. Try this comparison yourself.
Pricing tC(5sp) Tiburon (Gt limited)
MSRP $16,300 $20,495
Invoice $15,485 $18,753
National True Market Value (TMV®) Price $16,300 $19,243
  
  
Colors tC Tiburon(Gt limited) (respectively)
Interior Color Chips 1 Available 1 Available
Exterior Color Chips 7 Available 4 Available
  
Base Engine tC w/o supercharger Tiburon(Gt limited) (respectively)
Base Engine Type & Cylinders inline 4 V6
Base Engine Displacement 2.4 liters 2.7 liters
Valvetrain 16 Valves
double overhead cam (DOHC) 24 Valves
double overhead cam (DOHC)
Variable Valve Timing Standard Not Available
Horsepower 160 hp 6000 rpm(tC) 172 hp 6000 rpm(tib)
Torque 163 ft-lbs. 4200 rpm(tC) 181 ft-lbs. 3800 rpm(tib)
 
Available Engines tC Tiburon(Gt limited) (respectively)
4 Cyl Standard Not Available
6 Cyl Not Available Standard
 
Now admit the tib has more standard hp/torque but remember this is comparing top of line tib Gt limited w/ a V6 engine. Comparing the base tC and base tib, those #'s are sad. In my opinion with respect to my lifestyle, the tC is more passenger/driver friendly. If you think me throwing the remark was slick, what do you think the so unlike you I won't throw the comment despite me obviously knowing alot more about the cars in question than you. comment is? Try posting this message in the civic SI room. Thats how to equally compare competition. I know you said toyota vs hyundai but this is a crowded field of vehicles . Remember no two cars are built exactly the same. I know people who's tC has many miles and none of the problems (or different problems) you mentioned. Just ask some of the people in this form.